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- From: Jonah Aragon <jonaharagon AT gmail.com>
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- Subject: Re: [opennic-discuss] Gathering opinions on Piwik (Web Analytics)
- Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2017 16:04:16 -0500
Oh that’s a good thing to mention, it will definitely be on at least a
different subdomain (or different domain entirely, not sure) too so you’ll be
able to block it that way if you wish.
Jonah
> On Oct 14, 2017, at 3:36 PM, Verax <verax AT 8chan.co> wrote:
>
> I'll second log parsing. Relying on either DNT or a cookie to opt out
> is shitty, since both increase the user's fingerprint. If you are going
> to use JS, make sure it comes from a separate subdomain so it can be
> blocked independently of the rest of the site.
>
> --Verax
>
>> On 10/05/2017 10:21 PM, Rouben wrote:
>> No problem with Piwik, we actually use it at the University of Toronto
>> on a number of high volume sites with no issues.
>>
>> IMO, if we have no plans to use some of the data unique to Piwik, we
>> should stick to less invasive and easier on the browser visitor stats
>> gathering methods (i.e. web server log based).
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 11:58 Jonah Aragon <jonah AT triplebit.net
>> <mailto:jonah AT triplebit.net>> wrote:
>>
>> That’s fair. We might as well not, I suppose we only really need
>> very general data anyways so missing some data because of it would
>> be not a huge deal.
>>
>> Jonah
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Oct 5, 2017, at 10:48 AM, Fusl <opennic AT lists.dedilink.eu
>> <mailto:opennic AT lists.dedilink.eu>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2017-10-05 17:38, Al Beano wrote:
>>>> I'd be against using image tracking to track non-JS users.
>>>
>>> Same opinion for the same reason given, bots don't immediately
>> crawl images linked on a specific page. They *do* crawl the images,
>> but at a much later time which would skew our analytics data. I
>> think that having JS as the only tracking option is sufficient as
>> some (not all, but some) crawlers execute Javascript when
>> downloading the page which would result in the Piwik tracking URL to
>> be loaded.
>>>
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- [opennic-discuss] Gathering opinions on Piwik (Web Analytics), Jonah Aragon, 10/05/2017
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Gathering opinions on Piwik (Web Analytics), Al Beano, 10/05/2017
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Gathering opinions on Piwik (Web Analytics), Fusl, 10/05/2017
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Gathering opinions on Piwik (Web Analytics), Jonah Aragon, 10/05/2017
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Gathering opinions on Piwik (Web Analytics), Rouben, 10/06/2017
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Gathering opinions on Piwik (Web Analytics), Verax, 10/14/2017
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Gathering opinions on Piwik (Web Analytics), Jonah Aragon, 10/14/2017
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Gathering opinions on Piwik (Web Analytics), Verax, 10/14/2017
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Gathering opinions on Piwik (Web Analytics), Rouben, 10/06/2017
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Gathering opinions on Piwik (Web Analytics), Jonah Aragon, 10/05/2017
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Gathering opinions on Piwik (Web Analytics), Fusl, 10/05/2017
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Gathering opinions on Piwik (Web Analytics), Fusl, 10/05/2017
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Gathering opinions on Piwik (Web Analytics), Theo B, 10/05/2017
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Gathering opinions on Piwik (Web Analytics), Jonah Aragon, 10/05/2017
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Gathering opinions on Piwik (Web Analytics), kevin, 10/05/2017
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Gathering opinions on Piwik (Web Analytics), Theo B, 10/05/2017
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Gathering opinions on Piwik (Web Analytics), Al Beano, 10/05/2017
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