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["Daniel Quintiliani" <danq AT runbox.com>]

Even in countries which mandate net neutrality?

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-Dan Q


On Sun, 30 Jun 2019 17:07:51 -0700, <vv AT cgs.pw> wrote:

> I think you're wrong about that. A quick google and
> you'll see that DNS filtering is actually quite common.
> 
> ~ Ole
> 
> 
> On Sun, 30 Jun 2019 18:56:32 -0400 (EDT)
> "Daniel Quintiliani" <danq AT runbox.com> wrote:
> 
> > No ISP in the free world does this with their DNS
> > servers. Why should we?
> > 
> > --
> > 
> > -Dan Q
> > 
> > 
> > On Sun, 30 Jun 2019 15:58:11 -0500, kevin
> > <krattai AT gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > The problem here was, spamhaus painted ALL opennic
> > > peers with a broad brush.  So those that won't filter
> > > anything, which I fully support, could potentially
> > > affect everyone.
> > > 
> > > As many, if not most of us here appear to believe, this
> > > project has always been about freedom with
> > > collaboration via a touch of democracy (voting) thrown
> > > in. And I believe that everyone can (and will) do as
> > > they please.
> > > 
> > > But...  and so to repeat, those that filter nothing
> > > (including malware) could affect all of us.  And like
> > > the .free domain, I don't care and would have preferred
> > > to keep it under openNIC.  But, not everyone agrees
> > > with what I think. lol  So filtering, at least for
> > > malware, certainly could be suggested as a strong
> > > guideline or recommendation. And my opinion with
> > > anything else, obviously leave that to the individual
> > > T2 hosts.
> > > 
> > > Kevin
> > > 
> > > On Sun, 2019-06-30 at 12:05 +0200, Amunak wrote:  
> > > > Why? The T2 server list is capable of displaying and
> > > > filtering pretty 
> > > > much anything. Some T2 server providers may choose to
> > > > run more blacklists, some may choose to run none.
> > > > That's their decision and as 
> > > > long as they say so in their server's description
> > > > then more power to everyone - the whole point of
> > > > sharing T2 servers is to provide a service 
> > > > to other users who have an interest in that service
> > > > *with that particular configuration*. Same goes for
> > > > logging and such.
> > > > 
> > > > Sure, don't show it on the homepage among
> > > > "recommended servers" but there's no reason to
> > > > essentially blacklist those servers and operators 
> > > > from OpenNic.
> > > > 
> > > > Amunak
> > > > 
> > > > On 30.06.2019 1:55, Jacob Bachmeyer wrote:  
> > > > > Jeff Taylor wrote:  
> > > > > > It could relate to any domains, opennic or
> > > > > > icann.  And I'm not saying 
> > > > > > we WILL, I'm just saying we COULD have that
> > > > > > option.  Like with the 
> > > > > > spamhaus listings, use of this would be up to the
> > > > > > individual T2 operators.  At the moment there is
> > > > > > nothing planned, I just wrote the 
> > > > > > API so we could expand on its use later if we
> > > > > > chose to.  
> > > > > 
> > > > > I suggest a policy restricting the use of
> > > > > non-malware blacklists to 
> > > > > private T2 servers.  In other words, T2 servers
> > > > > using blacklists for 
> > > > > any category other than malware would not be
> > > > > eligible to be listed in 
> > > > > the public directory.
> > > > > 
> > > > > We might even want to require public T2 servers to
> > > > > blacklist known malware domains, but that is sure
> > > > > to be highly controversial. Should 
> > > > > we censor ransomware?
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > -- Jacob
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
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