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  • From: Alejandro Bonet <albogoal AT gmail.com>
  • To: discuss AT lists.opennicproject.org
  • Subject: Re: [opennic-discuss] Please, resolve .ibu domains
  • Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2014 14:03:06 +0100

Judges are not dictators or hijackers (as someones said here).

If there is no conflict, they dont act, and they dont say nothing at all.

But they are necesary if there are conflicts.

Perhaps Opennic must have three of them...

In this way, perhaps this kind of discussions could be resolved more
clean, balanced and fast.

Alejandro Bonet
albogoal AT gmail.com

PD: But this is only my humble opinion...

PD2: I will give here an absolutely free (gratis) prediction:

"If Opennic dont try to resolve these issues in a more automated
fashion, with clean, public and clear rules, perhaps it will no flow,
and some months since now, it will have the same problem once again
and so on..."

And a supossition based on my experience:

"This could was happened also in the past with other tld fair proposals".

PD3: And a completely free diagnostic: "The trend is that guys having
"approved" opennic tlds dont like new tlds (competence), and the guys
that having denied tlds dont like new tlds proposals and trend to deny
them by the same principle. And this is a ClosedNIC network..."

PD4: And an ecologist sentence: "Cold is better than dirty and
dangerous nuclear or fosil heat, but we can forget cold, because the
best is clean renewable heat, which is growing all around the world no
matter if some interested people like it or not".

And last PD5: "No matter if opennic comunity collaborate with .ibu
domains or not: Our servers will resolve opennic tlds, because we
think we share the 99.99% of opennic phylosophy, as it is expressed in
opennicproject.org documents, and because we dont have a better answer
that 75.127.96.89 if someone ask us for opennic.free. The curious is
that asking opennic to do the same with .ibu domains, is seen by
someones like a coup d'etat (golpe de estado)"




2014/1/17, Alejandro Bonet <albogoal AT gmail.com>:
> Wodd Quinn:
>
> No matter if you like me, or i like you.
>
> You cannot speak as Opennic.
>
> You only are a member of Opennic, like me, and like others.
>
> I dont know what you understand by "Open", and i dont want to know it.
>
> But, i will give you a COMPLETELY FREE (gratis) suggestion:
>
> Don't think in terms of "inside or outside"...
>
> This is only a free and collaborative network.
>
> Alejandro Bonet
> albogoal AT gmail.com
>
> PD: "Conviction is a stupid jail for the mind, and a diseasse cured
> with doubts"...
>
>
>
> 2014/1/17, Alejandro Bonet <albogoal AT gmail.com>:
>> Peter:
>>
>> English only is very good for usa, england, australia and new zeland
>> people.
>>
>> They encorage all of us to speak english as second language. We do it.
>>
>> But... Whats the second language for ENGLISH ONLIES?
>>
>> See this: http://wiki.opennicproject.org/HomePageES
>>
>> I was asking Brianko to link this in the "official" homepage in
>> english since two months...
>>
>> It is very easy: Only copy/paste a single line of wiki code text.
>>
>> No answer.
>>
>> We dont have any kind of problem with english onlies. But we speak
>> spanish naturally...
>> (Nobody is perfect... ;-)
>>
>> Perhaps to say ".ibu domains are public" may seems redundant if .ibu
>> is INSIDE opennic,
>> but we dont think in terms of "inside or outside": We only collaborate
>> with opennic, and we
>> hope opennic collaborate with us.
>>
>> Remember: We are not asking opennic for permission. Opennic has no
>> authority to give
>> or deny that. Like ICANN.
>> We are asking opennic for support. Opennic has all authority to
>> collaborate or support with
>> whatever they (and we, because "we are also members of opennic") want.
>>
>> "Fair content" is decided by the .ibu judges. You can be sure that to
>> be one of them is not pleasant.
>>
>> It only is "committed to the cause, responsable, difficult, boring,
>> delicated and not payed"...
>> If you want to be one of the judges, and you are "owner" (be allways
>> carefull with this word)
>> of an .ibu domain, you can postulate your candidature to the whole
>> .ibu users general aseembly to vote you for that responsability.
>>
>>
>> Dictionary abuses:
>>
>> Prosecuted = Perseguido
>>
>> = We will spend efforts to avoid it. Whatever efforts we could get
>> like tracking, marking and if we can get unanimity: deleting it.
>>
>> opennic.tld?
>>
>> Well, actually, opennic.ibu = registro.ibu
>>
>> Its only another alias, resolving in the same ip address.
>>
>> To spend efforts to get all dns servers around the world resolve .ibu
>> domains is a part of
>> our commited resposability, and this must be explicitly said in the
>> charter. This is what we
>> are doing with opennic (also).
>>
>> We put the charter in english ALSO (english also != english only), and
>> also in french, chinese and klingom language if we can... (however, to
>> get good translations from/to klingom is very difficult at today,
>> because it is an ancient language with not too much living
>> speakers...)
>>
>> Of course, any modification of the text will be discussed (by the .ibu
>> domain owners general assembly) democratically voted, and published.
>>
>> Publish = Put in the PUBLIC (including of course opennic members) domain.
>>
>> Thanks to all again...
>>
>> Alejandro Bonet
>> albogoal AT gmail.com
>>
>> PD: "Be liberal with what you accept, and be conservative with what you
>> emit"
>> (Jon Postel 1943-1998)
>>
>> http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Postel
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2014/1/17, Peter Green <peter AT greenpete.free>:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>> 4.- Dictionary based abuses will be automatically prosecuted and
>>>>> deleted.
>>>
>>> "Prosecuted"? What exactly does that mean, how are you going to
>>> prosecute
>>> someone?
>>>
>>> Plus as I think Travis said, rule 3 and 4 are incompatible...
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>>
>>
>



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