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  • From: subhuman <discipline AT gmx.net>
  • To: discuss AT lists.opennicproject.org
  • Subject: Re: [opennic-discuss] Please, resolve .ibu domains
  • Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2014 14:27:27 +0100

Ever heard about a thing named narcissism? Maybe that's what is getting in
your way. Cool down and simply think again. I'm confident you'll manage.

On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 14:12:59 +0100
Alejandro Bonet <albogoal AT gmail.com> wrote:

> Wood Quinn:
>
> Your opinion is your opinion, and you have some vicious and recurrent
> trend to speak in the name of others.
>
> This is because i dont like you.
>
> Thus your opinion is not very interesting for me.
>
> Im more interested in the opinion of all the other opennic members
> dont said nothing about this issue at today...
>
> Alejandro Bonet
> albogoal AT gmail.com
>
> PD: But you can say to they dont talk about this issue, because you
> dont have doubts and you are allways right and 100% convinced...
>
> Note the risk: If you (or me) talk publicly, you (or me) could get alone...
>
>
>
> 2014/1/17, Alejandro Bonet <albogoal AT gmail.com>:
> > Judges are not dictators or hijackers (as someones said here).
> >
> > If there is no conflict, they dont act, and they dont say nothing at all.
> >
> > But they are necesary if there are conflicts.
> >
> > Perhaps Opennic must have three of them...
> >
> > In this way, perhaps this kind of discussions could be resolved more
> > clean, balanced and fast.
> >
> > Alejandro Bonet
> > albogoal AT gmail.com
> >
> > PD: But this is only my humble opinion...
> >
> > PD2: I will give here an absolutely free (gratis) prediction:
> >
> > "If Opennic dont try to resolve these issues in a more automated
> > fashion, with clean, public and clear rules, perhaps it will no flow,
> > and some months since now, it will have the same problem once again
> > and so on..."
> >
> > And a supossition based on my experience:
> >
> > "This could was happened also in the past with other tld fair proposals".
> >
> > PD3: And a completely free diagnostic: "The trend is that guys having
> > "approved" opennic tlds dont like new tlds (competence), and the guys
> > that having denied tlds dont like new tlds proposals and trend to deny
> > them by the same principle. And this is a ClosedNIC network..."
> >
> > PD4: And an ecologist sentence: "Cold is better than dirty and
> > dangerous nuclear or fosil heat, but we can forget cold, because the
> > best is clean renewable heat, which is growing all around the world no
> > matter if some interested people like it or not".
> >
> > And last PD5: "No matter if opennic comunity collaborate with .ibu
> > domains or not: Our servers will resolve opennic tlds, because we
> > think we share the 99.99% of opennic phylosophy, as it is expressed in
> > opennicproject.org documents, and because we dont have a better answer
> > that 75.127.96.89 if someone ask us for opennic.free. The curious is
> > that asking opennic to do the same with .ibu domains, is seen by
> > someones like a coup d'etat (golpe de estado)"
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 2014/1/17, Alejandro Bonet <albogoal AT gmail.com>:
> >> Wodd Quinn:
> >>
> >> No matter if you like me, or i like you.
> >>
> >> You cannot speak as Opennic.
> >>
> >> You only are a member of Opennic, like me, and like others.
> >>
> >> I dont know what you understand by "Open", and i dont want to know it.
> >>
> >> But, i will give you a COMPLETELY FREE (gratis) suggestion:
> >>
> >> Don't think in terms of "inside or outside"...
> >>
> >> This is only a free and collaborative network.
> >>
> >> Alejandro Bonet
> >> albogoal AT gmail.com
> >>
> >> PD: "Conviction is a stupid jail for the mind, and a diseasse cured
> >> with doubts"...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 2014/1/17, Alejandro Bonet <albogoal AT gmail.com>:
> >>> Peter:
> >>>
> >>> English only is very good for usa, england, australia and new zeland
> >>> people.
> >>>
> >>> They encorage all of us to speak english as second language. We do it.
> >>>
> >>> But... Whats the second language for ENGLISH ONLIES?
> >>>
> >>> See this: http://wiki.opennicproject.org/HomePageES
> >>>
> >>> I was asking Brianko to link this in the "official" homepage in
> >>> english since two months...
> >>>
> >>> It is very easy: Only copy/paste a single line of wiki code text.
> >>>
> >>> No answer.
> >>>
> >>> We dont have any kind of problem with english onlies. But we speak
> >>> spanish naturally...
> >>> (Nobody is perfect... ;-)
> >>>
> >>> Perhaps to say ".ibu domains are public" may seems redundant if .ibu
> >>> is INSIDE opennic,
> >>> but we dont think in terms of "inside or outside": We only collaborate
> >>> with opennic, and we
> >>> hope opennic collaborate with us.
> >>>
> >>> Remember: We are not asking opennic for permission. Opennic has no
> >>> authority to give
> >>> or deny that. Like ICANN.
> >>> We are asking opennic for support. Opennic has all authority to
> >>> collaborate or support with
> >>> whatever they (and we, because "we are also members of opennic") want.
> >>>
> >>> "Fair content" is decided by the .ibu judges. You can be sure that to
> >>> be one of them is not pleasant.
> >>>
> >>> It only is "committed to the cause, responsable, difficult, boring,
> >>> delicated and not payed"...
> >>> If you want to be one of the judges, and you are "owner" (be allways
> >>> carefull with this word)
> >>> of an .ibu domain, you can postulate your candidature to the whole
> >>> .ibu users general aseembly to vote you for that responsability.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Dictionary abuses:
> >>>
> >>> Prosecuted = Perseguido
> >>>
> >>> = We will spend efforts to avoid it. Whatever efforts we could get
> >>> like tracking, marking and if we can get unanimity: deleting it.
> >>>
> >>> opennic.tld?
> >>>
> >>> Well, actually, opennic.ibu = registro.ibu
> >>>
> >>> Its only another alias, resolving in the same ip address.
> >>>
> >>> To spend efforts to get all dns servers around the world resolve .ibu
> >>> domains is a part of
> >>> our commited resposability, and this must be explicitly said in the
> >>> charter. This is what we
> >>> are doing with opennic (also).
> >>>
> >>> We put the charter in english ALSO (english also != english only), and
> >>> also in french, chinese and klingom language if we can... (however, to
> >>> get good translations from/to klingom is very difficult at today,
> >>> because it is an ancient language with not too much living
> >>> speakers...)
> >>>
> >>> Of course, any modification of the text will be discussed (by the .ibu
> >>> domain owners general assembly) democratically voted, and published.
> >>>
> >>> Publish = Put in the PUBLIC (including of course opennic members)
> >>> domain.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks to all again...
> >>>
> >>> Alejandro Bonet
> >>> albogoal AT gmail.com
> >>>
> >>> PD: "Be liberal with what you accept, and be conservative with what you
> >>> emit"
> >>> (Jon Postel 1943-1998)
> >>>
> >>> http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Postel
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 2014/1/17, Peter Green <peter AT greenpete.free>:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>> 4.- Dictionary based abuses will be automatically prosecuted and
> >>>>>> deleted.
> >>>>
> >>>> "Prosecuted"? What exactly does that mean, how are you going to
> >>>> prosecute
> >>>> someone?
> >>>>
> >>>> Plus as I think Travis said, rule 3 and 4 are incompatible...
> >>>>
> >>>> Peter
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >


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