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[Jon Sparks <jon AT sparks.li>]

When did this list turn into a place to argue about new TLDs? If everyone has agreed it's not gonna happen, just drop it altogether and quit arguing. 

On Monday, January 20, 2014, Guillaume Parent <gparent AT gparent.org> wrote:
> Sorry, was this actually intended to me? None of what you said has anything to do with what I said.
>
> I run a stable tier 2 very succesfully in an area of the world where others are usually not offering their services, so please don't lecture me on providing internet services and democracy.
>
> Again, I understand what you mean (I think) with your 'dictionary abuses'. What I'm telling you is that if this is what you want to do, then strike out rule 3 as it is mutually exclusive with rule 4.
>
> I can't make any sense of what you're saying with those TLDs and public DNS servers. It's not related to OpenNIC whatsoever.
>
> We ask you to run a tier 1 to host your TLD not just to prove you can, but because it's necessary to run it.
>
> -gp
>
> On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 06:36:02PM +0100, Alejandro Bonet wrote:
> > Guillaume, Quinn:
> >
> > No matter if you dont like me: Im not your enemy and i dont want to be that...
> >
> > Im only pourposing a new tld and a new currency.
> > Both based on my work (and some others work) and both honest as far as
> > i can see.
> >
> > If you need an "enemy of democracy" you could think on centralized "authorities"
> > like ICANN, FED, ECB, IMF, etc...
> >
> > See this:
> >
> > http://www.newgtldsite.com/new-gtld-list/
> >
> > This is precisely what i name "A clear dictionary abuse".
> >
> > Slow but abuse. Constant in time...
> > Each year, a little bit more abusive...
> >
> > IMHO each person or group setting up a public DNS server resolving ALL domains,
> > has the right to run his own TLD. And the rest of us must support that.
> >
> > And avoid the same owner of the same servers abusing on dictionary.
> >
> > This is what i understood the first time i enter opennicproject.org...
> > (And remember: I didnt vote anything, because i enter some months ago
> > for first time...)
> >
> > ...
> >
> > At today, http://ausregistry.com.au has four dns servers:
> >
> > ari.alpha.aridns.net.au
> > ari.beta.aridns.net.au
> > ari.gamma.aridns.net.au
> > ari.delta.aridns.net.au
> >
> > But they control about 70 TLDs from the 400 (more or less) we are
> > resolving to the people...
> >
> > .academy, .agency, .bike, .builders, .cab, .camera, .camp, .careers,
> > .center, .cheap,
> > .clothing, .codes, .coffee, .company, .computer, .construction, .contractors,
> > .dance, .democrat...
> >
> > And so on...
> >
> > But perhaps you dont valorize (assess) too much the effort to set up
> > and mantain stable a public dns server for the free internet... The
> > internet you and me believe.
> >
> > IMHO it is a good thing for the whole internet and democracy, and must
> > be valorized as it is.
> >
> > Have you 10 public dns servers?... Well, then you have right to run 10 TLDs...
> >
> > (Of course if you dont create conflicts, and you have public
> > registries for them).
> >
> > "Hey!... Then if i supply one million servers online i have right to
> > one million TLDs?"
> >
> > Well: The answer is "can you set up that?... Then perhaps you have
> > that right..."
> >
> > But this depends on what names, of course, because Google Inc, perhaps
> > can do it...
> >
> > Perhaps some tlds must be PROHIBITED BY NETIQUETTE...
> > (Like some trademarks in some countries)...
> >
> > I dont know!!
> >
> > But i only have a clear idea: Dictionary abuses are good for nobody,
> > except the abusators, no matter how slow and constant is the abuse.
> > And we must denounce that, and try to elevate
> > that to the public debate by all means we could get.
> >
> > And you can be sure: Many BIG AND POWERFUL companies will agree
> > against dictionary abuses on internet tlds. From TV stations and big
> > newspapers to Google or Yahoo or Twitter.
> > And if they dont, perhaps "they are also the enemy"...
> >
> > The rule could be like "You have TLDs rights as you supply DNS public
> > servers"...
> >
> > And The Opennic Community clearly fit (more or less) on this rule.
> > But perhaps ICANN and others dont.
> >
> > Of course, they have "The Money"...
> >
> >
> > If we permit dictionary abuses on TLDs, you can be sure in some months
> > all internet namespaces will be monopolized by Mr. Burns and Mr.
> > Waylon Smithers...
> >
> > Best regards and good food!!
> >
> > Alejandro Bonet
> > albogoal AT gmail.com
> >
> > PD: "You only realize you are a slave when you move and hear the sound
> > of your own chains..."
> >
> > PD2: If we can establish a biyection between tlds and public dns
> > servers ipv4 addresess,
> > ONE FOR ONE, all will flow good for all of us, and probably we will
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