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- From: Guillaume Parent <gparent AT gparent.org>
- To: discuss AT lists.opennicproject.org
- Subject: Re: [opennic-discuss] Please, resolve .ibu domains
- Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 18:32:13 +0000
Sorry, was this actually intended to me? None of what you said has anything
to do with what I said.
I run a stable tier 2 very succesfully in an area of the world where others
are usually not offering their services, so please don't lecture me on
providing internet services and democracy.
Again, I understand what you mean (I think) with your 'dictionary abuses'.
What I'm telling you is that if this is what you want to do, then strike out
rule 3 as it is mutually exclusive with rule 4.
I can't make any sense of what you're saying with those TLDs and public DNS
servers. It's not related to OpenNIC whatsoever.
We ask you to run a tier 1 to host your TLD not just to prove you can, but
because it's necessary to run it.
-gp
On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 06:36:02PM +0100, Alejandro Bonet wrote:
> Guillaume, Quinn:
>
> No matter if you dont like me: Im not your enemy and i dont want to be
> that...
>
> Im only pourposing a new tld and a new currency.
> Both based on my work (and some others work) and both honest as far as
> i can see.
>
> If you need an "enemy of democracy" you could think on centralized
> "authorities"
> like ICANN, FED, ECB, IMF, etc...
>
> See this:
>
> http://www.newgtldsite.com/new-gtld-list/
>
> This is precisely what i name "A clear dictionary abuse".
>
> Slow but abuse. Constant in time...
> Each year, a little bit more abusive...
>
> IMHO each person or group setting up a public DNS server resolving ALL
> domains,
> has the right to run his own TLD. And the rest of us must support that.
>
> And avoid the same owner of the same servers abusing on dictionary.
>
> This is what i understood the first time i enter opennicproject.org...
> (And remember: I didnt vote anything, because i enter some months ago
> for first time...)
>
> ...
>
> At today, http://ausregistry.com.au has four dns servers:
>
> ari.alpha.aridns.net.au
> ari.beta.aridns.net.au
> ari.gamma.aridns.net.au
> ari.delta.aridns.net.au
>
> But they control about 70 TLDs from the 400 (more or less) we are
> resolving to the people...
>
> .academy, .agency, .bike, .builders, .cab, .camera, .camp, .careers,
> .center, .cheap,
> .clothing, .codes, .coffee, .company, .computer, .construction,
> .contractors,
> .dance, .democrat...
>
> And so on...
>
> But perhaps you dont valorize (assess) too much the effort to set up
> and mantain stable a public dns server for the free internet... The
> internet you and me believe.
>
> IMHO it is a good thing for the whole internet and democracy, and must
> be valorized as it is.
>
> Have you 10 public dns servers?... Well, then you have right to run 10
> TLDs...
>
> (Of course if you dont create conflicts, and you have public
> registries for them).
>
> "Hey!... Then if i supply one million servers online i have right to
> one million TLDs?"
>
> Well: The answer is "can you set up that?... Then perhaps you have
> that right..."
>
> But this depends on what names, of course, because Google Inc, perhaps
> can do it...
>
> Perhaps some tlds must be PROHIBITED BY NETIQUETTE...
> (Like some trademarks in some countries)...
>
> I dont know!!
>
> But i only have a clear idea: Dictionary abuses are good for nobody,
> except the abusators, no matter how slow and constant is the abuse.
> And we must denounce that, and try to elevate
> that to the public debate by all means we could get.
>
> And you can be sure: Many BIG AND POWERFUL companies will agree
> against dictionary abuses on internet tlds. From TV stations and big
> newspapers to Google or Yahoo or Twitter.
> And if they dont, perhaps "they are also the enemy"...
>
> The rule could be like "You have TLDs rights as you supply DNS public
> servers"...
>
> And The Opennic Community clearly fit (more or less) on this rule.
> But perhaps ICANN and others dont.
>
> Of course, they have "The Money"...
>
>
> If we permit dictionary abuses on TLDs, you can be sure in some months
> all internet namespaces will be monopolized by Mr. Burns and Mr.
> Waylon Smithers...
>
> Best regards and good food!!
>
> Alejandro Bonet
> albogoal AT gmail.com
>
> PD: "You only realize you are a slave when you move and hear the sound
> of your own chains..."
>
> PD2: If we can establish a biyection between tlds and public dns
> servers ipv4 addresess,
> ONE FOR ONE, all will flow good for all of us, and probably we will
> avoid dictionary abuses on tlds...
>
> (I hope...)
>
> Note this biyection is not communicational or technical: Is a way to
> understand rights to run tlds,
> and a way to simplify and automate collective decissions...
>
> (But i dont have all the answers and i dont know everything...)
>
>
> 2014/1/20, Quinn Wood <wood.quinn.s AT gmail.com>:
> > On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 10:17 PM, Guillaume Parent <gparent AT gparent.org>
> > wrote:
> >> For what it's worth, Quinn isn't speaking for the whole community, but
> >> he's
> >> part of it so maybe you should respect his opinion because you'll find
> >> that
> >> a whole lot of us think exactly like him on some points.
> >>
> > I have a tendency to be overly loud, but even when I'm rude it's VERY
> > rarely personal, and never permanent.
> >
>
>
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- Re: [opennic-discuss] Please, resolve .ibu domains, (continued)
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Please, resolve .ibu domains, Alejandro Bonet, 01/17/2014
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Please, resolve .ibu domains, subhuman, 01/17/2014
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Please, resolve .ibu domains, Alex Hanselka, 01/17/2014
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Please, resolve .ibu domains, Quinn Wood, 01/17/2014
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Please, resolve .ibu domains, Alejandro Bonet, 01/18/2014
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Please, resolve .ibu domains, Alejandro Bonet, 01/18/2014
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Please, resolve .ibu domains, Quinn Wood, 01/19/2014
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Please, resolve .ibu domains, Guillaume Parent, 01/19/2014
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Please, resolve .ibu domains, Quinn Wood, 01/20/2014
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Please, resolve .ibu domains, Alejandro Bonet, 01/20/2014
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Please, resolve .ibu domains, Guillaume Parent, 01/20/2014
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Fwd: Re: [opennic-dns-operations] Please, resolve .ibu domains, Jon Sparks, 01/20/2014
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Fwd: Re: [opennic-dns-operations] Please, resolve .ibu domains, Guillaume Parent, 01/20/2014
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Fwd: Re: [opennic-dns-operations] Please, resolve .ibu domains, Alex Hanselka, 01/21/2014
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Fwd: Re: [opennic-dns-operations] Please, resolve .ibu domains, Jon Sparks, 01/21/2014
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Fwd: Re: [opennic-dns-operations] Please, resolve .ibu domains, Jon Sparks, 01/21/2014
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Fwd: Re: [opennic-dns-operations] Please, resolve .ibu domains, Guillaume Parent, 01/21/2014
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Fwd: Re: [opennic-dns-operations] Please, resolve .ibu domains, Alejandro Bonet, 01/22/2014
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Please, resolve .ibu domains, Quinn Wood, 01/20/2014
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Please, resolve .ibu domains, Alejandro Bonet, 01/18/2014
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Please, resolve .ibu domains, Quinn Wood, 01/17/2014
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Please, resolve .ibu domains, Quinn Wood, 01/20/2014
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Please, resolve .ibu domains, Richard Lyons, 01/20/2014
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Please, resolve .ibu domains, Mauricio Pasquier Juan, 01/20/2014
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Please, resolve .ibu domains, Alejandro Bonet, 01/17/2014
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