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  • From: Guillaume Parent <gparent AT gparent.org>
  • To: discuss AT lists.opennicproject.org
  • Subject: Re: [opennic-discuss] Fwd: Re: [opennic-dns-operations] Please, resolve .ibu domains
  • Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 22:00:16 +0000

I believe I'm entitled to talk here too.

Thanks,

On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 01:43:00PM -0500, Jon Sparks wrote:
> When did this list turn into a place to argue about new TLDs? If everyone
> has agreed it's not gonna happen, just drop it altogether and quit arguing.
>
> On Monday, January 20, 2014, Guillaume Parent <gparent AT gparent.org> wrote:
>
> > Sorry, was this actually intended to me? None of what you said has
> > anything to do with what I said.
> >
> > I run a stable tier 2 very succesfully in an area of the world where
> > others are usually not offering their services, so please don't lecture me
> > on providing internet services and democracy.
> >
> > Again, I understand what you mean (I think) with your 'dictionary abuses'.
> > What I'm telling you is that if this is what you want to do, then strike
> > out rule 3 as it is mutually exclusive with rule 4.
> >
> > I can't make any sense of what you're saying with those TLDs and public
> > DNS servers. It's not related to OpenNIC whatsoever.
> >
> > We ask you to run a tier 1 to host your TLD not just to prove you can, but
> > because it's necessary to run it.
> >
> > -gp
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 06:36:02PM +0100, Alejandro Bonet wrote:
> > > Guillaume, Quinn:
> > >
> > > No matter if you dont like me: Im not your enemy and i dont want to be
> > that...
> > >
> > > Im only pourposing a new tld and a new currency.
> > > Both based on my work (and some others work) and both honest as far as
> > > i can see.
> > >
> > > If you need an "enemy of democracy" you could think on centralized
> > "authorities"
> > > like ICANN, FED, ECB, IMF, etc...
> > >
> > > See this:
> > >
> > > http://www.newgtldsite.com/new-gtld-list/
> > >
> > > This is precisely what i name "A clear dictionary abuse".
> > >
> > > Slow but abuse. Constant in time...
> > > Each year, a little bit more abusive...
> > >
> > > IMHO each person or group setting up a public DNS server resolving ALL
> > domains,
> > > has the right to run his own TLD. And the rest of us must support that.
> > >
> > > And avoid the same owner of the same servers abusing on dictionary.
> > >
> > > This is what i understood the first time i enter opennicproject.org...
> > > (And remember: I didnt vote anything, because i enter some months ago
> > > for first time...)
> > >
> > > ...
> > >
> > > At today, http://ausregistry.com.au has four dns servers:
> > >
> > > ari.alpha.aridns.net.au
> > > ari.beta.aridns.net.au
> > > ari.gamma.aridns.net.au
> > > ari.delta.aridns.net.au
> > >
> > > But they control about 70 TLDs from the 400 (more or less) we are
> > > resolving to the people...
> > >
> > > .academy, .agency, .bike, .builders, .cab, .camera, .camp, .careers,
> > > .center, .cheap,
> > > .clothing, .codes, .coffee, .company, .computer, .construction,
> > .contractors,
> > > .dance, .democrat...
> > >
> > > And so on...
> > >
> > > But perhaps you dont valorize (assess) too much the effort to set up
> > > and mantain stable a public dns server for the free internet... The
> > > internet you and me believe.
> > >
> > > IMHO it is a good thing for the whole internet and democracy, and must
> > > be valorized as it is.
> > >
> > > Have you 10 public dns servers?... Well, then you have right to run 10
> > TLDs...
> > >
> > > (Of course if you dont create conflicts, and you have public
> > > registries for them).
> > >
> > > "Hey!... Then if i supply one million servers online i have right to
> > > one million TLDs?"
> > >
> > > Well: The answer is "can you set up that?... Then perhaps you have
> > > that right..."
> > >
> > > But this depends on what names, of course, because Google Inc, perhaps
> > > can do it...
> > >
> > > Perhaps some tlds must be PROHIBITED BY NETIQUETTE...
> > > (Like some trademarks in some countries)...
> > >
> > > I dont know!!
> > >
> > > But i only have a clear idea: Dictionary abuses are good for nobody,
> > > except the abusators, no matter how slow and constant is the abuse.
> > > And we must denounce that, and try to elevate
> > > that to the public debate by all means we could get.
> > >
> > > And you can be sure: Many BIG AND POWERFUL companies will agree
> > > against dictionary abuses on internet tlds. From TV stations and big
> > > newspapers to Google or Yahoo or Twitter.
> > > And if they dont, perhaps "they are also the enemy"...
> > >
> > > The rule could be like "You have TLDs rights as you supply DNS public
> > > servers"...
> > >
> > > And The Opennic Community clearly fit (more or less) on this rule.
> > > But perhaps ICANN and others dont.
> > >
> > > Of course, they have "The Money"...
> > >
> > >
> > > If we permit dictionary abuses on TLDs, you can be sure in some months
> > > all internet namespaces will be monopolized by Mr. Burns and Mr.
> > > Waylon Smithers...
> > >
> > > Best regards and good food!!
> > >
> > > Alejandro Bonet
> > > albogoal AT gmail.com
> > >
> > > PD: "You only realize you are a slave when you move and hear the sound
> > > of your own chains..."
> > >
> > > PD2: If we can establish a biyection between tlds and public dns
> > > servers ipv4 addresess,
> > > ONE FOR ONE, all will flow good for all of us, and probably we will
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>
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