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[Alejandro Bonet <albogoal AT gmail.com>]

Excuse me Frank, i need to ask you again...

Which government or organization is trying to censoring internet in
west using DNS?

(Excluding of course, USA government, NSA, Facebook, IBM, Google,
Microsoft, Vaticano, Neonazis, George Bush friends, Oil companies, The
Queen of England, Bilderberg club, Mass media, Pharmas, etc, of
course, because they are very good persons all...)


Alejandro Bonet
albogoal AT gmail.com

PD: Give me their ip addresses and they will see!!

I don't eat nothing today until now and i'm hungry!!


2014-03-04 13:45 GMT+01:00, Alejandro Bonet <albogoal AT gmail.com>:
> Hi again Frank:
>
> Here you have another 2M7 domains list built asking google with dictionary
> using wget and getting the domains from the google html responses:
>
> http://185.16.40.143/estatico.babel7.com/alargador/dominios2.7z
>
> (until google ban the queries...)
>
> Alejandro Bonet
> albogoal AT gmail.com
>
>
> 2014-03-04 13:31 GMT+01:00, Alejandro Bonet <albogoal AT gmail.com>:
>> Hi Frank:
>>
>> Here you have a list of about 900.000 different domains queried by the
>> people
>> to my server since August 2013:
>>
>> http://185.16.40.143/estatico.babel7.com/alargador/dominios.7z
>>
>> This dont include in-addr.arpa reverse lookup domains, and it is
>> alphabetically sorted.
>>
>> Rememeber these are QUERIES (not answers), and thus some of them could
>> don't exist...
>>
>>
>> Alejandro Bonet
>> albogoal AT gmail.com
>>
>> PD: Which country government in west is trying to censor internet?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2014-03-03 21:08 GMT+01:00, Guillaume Parent <gparent AT gparent.org>:
>>> Thanks for the explanations, it's likely that I'll contact you a bit
>>> later
>>> off list. Your work is appreciated, and do not take my refusal to hand
>>> out
>>> data as something I have against your project :) I hope others will
>>> assist
>>> you.
>>>
>>> -gp
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Frank Minder <frminder AT yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Calum got it right, thanks for the explanation!
>>>>
>>>> I understand and appreciate that DNS operators are aware of their
>>>> responsibility and I completely agree that you shouldn't share your
>>>> complete log files with a random stranger who asks for it on a
>>>> mailinglist.
>>>> But I believe some people on this list are interested in the OpenNIC
>>>> project because they dislike the idea of censorship on the Internet
>>>> (like
>>>> me) and would like to use their resources to help researching a secret
>>>> government Internet censorship blacklist and debunk the mostly
>>>> ridiculous
>>>> implementations of those blacklists. I already found domains that are
>>>> not
>>>> registered anymore since several years, domains that used to host a
>>>> porn
>>>> website but now belong to startups that have no way to be successful in
>>>> that country because of the censorship, several obvious typos and so
>>>> on.
>>>> I am explicitly not asking for the full logs with IPs, timestamps etc.,
>>>> just the plain domains. Alexa provides a download of the top million
>>>> domains according to their research (
>>>> http://s3.amazonaws.com/alexa-static/top-1m.csv.zip), Quantcast as well
>>>> (
>>>> https://ak.quantcast.com/quantcast-top-million.zip). Hell, its not even
>>>> difficult to get a *complete* list of all .com/net/org/info/biz etc.
>>>> domains (
>>>> http://www.leandomainsearch.com/blog/16-how-to-get-access-to-the-official-verisign--com-zone-file)
>>>> -- I am asking for something very similar, just with subdomains and of
>>>> course other TLDs as well. I don't see a big security/privacy issue
>>>> here.
>>>>
>>>> If you would like to help but don't want to share your domainlist I can
>>>> send you the hashes and show you how to use your local domainlist to
>>>> try
>>>> to
>>>> recover the plaintext domains from the hashes. This would mean much
>>>> more
>>>> work for you and won't help me with the new hashes on the next update
>>>> of
>>>> the blacklist but it would still be appreciated very much.
>>>> Just contact me off list.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   On Monday, March 3, 2014 7:50 PM, Guillaume Parent
>>>> <gparent AT gparent.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>  Yeah, if the idea is to identify individual domains rather than try
>>>> and
>>>> assess what percentage would be blocked then I'm afraid that personally
>>>> I
>>>> can't help you.
>>>>
>>>> -gp
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Hunter 9999 <mail AT hunter-9999.de>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Am 03.03.2014 um 19:19 schrieb Calum McAlinden
>>>> > <calum AT mcalinden.me.uk>:
>>>> >> On 3 March 2014 16:26, Guillaume Parent <gparent AT gparent.org> wrote:
>>>> >> What you should do is tell us how to generate hashed lists so that
>>>> >> we
>>>> never
>>>> >> have to give you logs in the first place.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I assume most operators willing to give you this data would only do
>>>> >> it
>>>> with
>>>> >> a strong one way hash pre-applied (such as SHA512)
>>>> >
>>>> > From what I understand, the individual wants to find out which
>>>> > particular domains are on the list of hashes provided to the ISPs by
>>>> > whichever government. He needs large lists of non-hashed domains to
>>>> > hash and compare with the blocked lists; a matching hash will
>>>> > indicate
>>>> > that particular domain being blocked by the government. Is this
>>>> > correct? Sorry, I am unable to help as I do not operate any public
>>>> > DNS
>>>> > servers.
>>>>
>>>> This is what I understand, too.
>>>>
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