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[Frank Minder <frminder AT yahoo.com>]

Thanks Alejandro!
But the links are down for me: Connecting to 185.16.40.143:80... failed: Connection refused

On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 1:18 PM, Alejandro Bonet <albogoal AT gmail.com> wrote:

http://alargador.org/hth5.htm

Alejandro Bonet
albogoal AT gmail.com


2014-03-04 14:14 GMT+01:00, Alejandro Bonet <albogoal AT gmail.com>:
> Excuse me Frank, i need to ask you again...
>
> Which government or organization is trying to censoring internet in
> west using DNS?
>
> (Excluding of course, USA government, NSA, Facebook, IBM, Google,
> Microsoft, Vaticano, Neonazis, George Bush friends, Oil companies, The
> Queen of England, Bilderberg club, Mass media, Pharmas, etc, of
> course, because they are very good persons all...)
>
>
> Alejandro Bonet
> albogoal AT gmail.com
>
> PD: Give me their ip addresses and they will see!!
>
> I don't eat nothing today until now and i'm hungry!!
>
>
> 2014-03-04 13:45 GMT+01:00, Alejandro Bonet <albogoal AT gmail.com>:
>> Hi again Frank:
>>
>> Here you have another 2M7 domains list built asking google with
>> dictionary
>> using wget and getting the domains from the google html responses:
>>
>> http://185.16.40.143/estatico.babel7.com/alargador/dominios2.7z
>>
>> (until google ban the queries...)
>>
>> Alejandro Bonet
>> albogoal AT gmail.com
>>
>>
>> 2014-03-04 13:31 GMT+01:00, Alejandro Bonet <albogoal AT gmail.com>:
>>> Hi Frank:
>>>
>>> Here you have a list of about 900.000 different domains queried by the
>>> people
>>> to my server since August 2013:
>>>
>>> http://185.16.40.143/estatico.babel7.com/alargador/dominios.7z
>>>
>>> This dont include in-addr.arpa reverse lookup domains, and it is
>>> alphabetically sorted.
>>>
>>> Rememeber these are QUERIES (not answers), and thus some of them could
>>> don't exist...
>>>
>>>
>>> Alejandro Bonet
>>> albogoal AT gmail.com
>>>
>>> PD: Which country government in west is trying to censor internet?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014-03-03 21:08 GMT+01:00, Guillaume Parent <gparent AT gparent.org>:
>>>> Thanks for the explanations, it's likely that I'll contact you a bit
>>>> later
>>>> off list. Your work is appreciated, and do not take my refusal to hand
>>>> out
>>>> data as something I have against your project :) I hope others will
>>>> assist
>>>> you.
>>>>
>>>> -gp
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Frank Minder <frminder AT yahoo.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Calum got it right, thanks for the explanation!
>>>>>
>>>>> I understand and appreciate that DNS operators are aware of their
>>>>> responsibility and I completely agree that you shouldn't share your
>>>>> complete log files with a random stranger who asks for it on a
>>>>> mailinglist.
>>>>> But I believe some people on this list are interested in the OpenNIC
>>>>> project because they dislike the idea of censorship on the Internet
>>>>> (like
>>>>> me) and would like to use their resources to help researching a secret
>>>>> government Internet censorship blacklist and debunk the mostly
>>>>> ridiculous
>>>>> implementations of those blacklists. I already found domains that are
>>>>> not
>>>>> registered anymore since several years, domains that used to host a
>>>>> porn
>>>>> website but now belong to startups that have no way to be successful
>>>>> in
>>>>> that country because of the censorship, several obvious typos and so
>>>>> on.
>>>>> I am explicitly not asking for the full logs with IPs, timestamps
>>>>> etc.,
>>>>> just the plain domains. Alexa provides a download of the top million
>>>>> domains according to their research (
>>>>> http://s3.amazonaws.com/alexa-static/top-1m.csv.zip), Quantcast as
>>>>> well
>>>>> (
>>>>> https://ak.quantcast.com/quantcast-top-million.zip). Hell, its not
>>>>> even
>>>>> difficult to get a *complete* list of all .com/net/org/info/biz etc.
>>>>> domains (
>>>>> http://www.leandomainsearch.com/blog/16-how-to-get-access-to-the-official-verisign--com-zone-file)
>>>>> -- I am asking for something very similar, just with subdomains and of
>>>>> course other TLDs as well. I don't see a big security/privacy issue
>>>>> here.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you would like to help but don't want to share your domainlist I
>>>>> can
>>>>> send you the hashes and show you how to use your local domainlist to
>>>>> try
>>>>> to
>>>>> recover the plaintext domains from the hashes. This would mean much
>>>>> more
>>>>> work for you and won't help me with the new hashes on the next update
>>>>> of
>>>>> the blacklist but it would still be appreciated very much.
>>>>> Just contact me off list.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  On Monday, March 3, 2014 7:50 PM, Guillaume Parent
>>>>> <gparent AT gparent.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>  Yeah, if the idea is to identify individual domains rather than try
>>>>> and
>>>>> assess what percentage would be blocked then I'm afraid that
>>>>> personally
>>>>> I
>>>>> can't help you.
>>>>>
>>>>> -gp
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Hunter 9999 <mail AT hunter-9999.de>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > Am 03.03.2014 um 19:19 schrieb Calum McAlinden
>>>>> > <calum AT mcalinden.me.uk>:
>>>>> >> On 3 March 2014 16:26, Guillaume Parent <gparent AT gparent.org>
>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>> >> What you should do is tell us how to generate hashed lists so that
>>>>> >> we
>>>>> never
>>>>> >> have to give you logs in the first place.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I assume most operators willing to give you this data would only do
>>>>> >> it
>>>>> with
>>>>> >> a strong one way hash pre-applied (such as SHA512)
>>>>> >
>>>>> > From what I understand, the individual wants to find out which
>>>>> > particular domains are on the list of hashes provided to the ISPs by
>>>>> > whichever government. He needs large lists of non-hashed domains to
>>>>> > hash and compare with the blocked lists; a matching hash will
>>>>> > indicate
>>>>> > that particular domain being blocked by the government. Is this
>>>>> > correct? Sorry, I am unable to help as I do not operate any public
>>>>> > DNS
>>>>> > servers.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is what I understand, too.
>>>>>
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