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  • From: Alejandro Bonet <albogoal AT gmail.com>
  • To: discuss AT lists.opennicproject.org
  • Subject: Re: [opennic-discuss] Looking for logs (just the domains) for censorship research
  • Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2014 18:15:12 +0100

Jeff: An accusation needs an accusated.

Who is that?...

All the email list?...

Im sure my english is not the best.

If someone has been offended by my bad english, i ask for excuses to all them.

Perhaps im unfriendly for many people here.
But, please, dont look to my form.
Look to my bottom.

Alejandro Bonet
albogoal AT gmail.com


2014-03-05 18:08 GMT+01:00, Alejandro Bonet <albogoal AT gmail.com>:
> Yes Guillaume: I almost agree with you:
>
> "Domain names are public. The list of every domain queried on a
> particular server is not."
>
> But i dont said which server.
> Also i dont said it was the entire list of every domain queried to
> that unknow server.
>
> OK?
>
> Please: If you dont like the proposal of Frank (to ask us about public
> domain names to get
> the hashes and, perhaps, fight against some program invented by
> someones to censor the internet trought DNS, or decipher it to
> contribute to a better free internet, or to denunce publicly the
> someones trying to censor), please say it to Frank.
>
> I understand the Frank question.
> I answer it as i can.
> I dont know his motivations, but they seem honest.
>
> As it seems, Frank does not follow this list with the same frequency
> as you or me.
>
> There are lots of web accesible listings of domain names.
>
> Thats all.
>
> Alejandro Bonet
> albogoal AT gmail.com
>
> PD: Nova King, i dont understand why you are offended by my suggestion
> that "perhaps some bad guys are listen this email list"...
>
> It is only "a theory"...
>
> If true, no matter with you or me... We can do anything to avoid that.
>
> And Guillaume has again another reason: It is completely baseless.
>
> But also it is completely baseless to mantain in absolut terms that
> "all the subscriptors are proved good guys"...
>
> I think that most of them are good guys, in fact im sure of that...
> But perhaps not all.
>
> And i think we need to remember that allways...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 2014-03-05 17:47 GMT+01:00, Guillaume Parent <gparent AT gparent.org>:
>> The list of domains queried on a DNS server is not public until the
>> operator of that DNS server makes it public. Stop implying otherwise,
>> because it is factually wrong.
>>
>> Domain names are public. The list of every domain queried on a particular
>> server is not.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 4:41 PM, Alejandro Bonet <albogoal AT gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I dont know if the word shit (you likes it so much) have the mean i
>>> think...
>>>
>>> I dont "acusse the list" at all, as you say.
>>>
>>> I only say maybe there are some bad guys listen it.
>>>
>>> The data is public or PUBLIC (if you dont like caps, it's your problem).
>>>
>>> The data is collected from google, which is public, and dns queries
>>> trasversing all the internet
>>> in clear. Frank says he has collected amounts of these data from other
>>> public sources.
>>>
>>> To post these data into this semipublic list for subscriptors dont
>>> make "more public" the
>>> data.
>>>
>>> Alejandro Bonet
>>> albogoal AT gmail.com
>>>
>>> PD: But you have reason in one thing: It was bad idea to post the
>>> data...
>>>
>>> Because perhaps now, i cant stop your SHIT verborrea!
>>>
>>>
>>>
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