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["Daniel Quintiliani" <danq AT runbox.com>]

Individual personal domains are already .null

I like your (and other peoples') idea of "making .libre libre" by removing 
the noncommercial requirement from the charter. Perhaps while .null is for 
individual personal domains, .libre can be changed into what .o was supposed 
to be.

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-Dan Q

On Sat, 10 Jun 2017 17:41:53 -0600, Jeff Taylor <shdwdrgn AT sourpuss.net> wrote:

> Just to really stir the pot... do we really need more than the basic 
> concept of a charter for ANY of the tlds? I can understand setting forth 
> the idea of what type of domains to expect under a TLD -- something like 
> .parody should be fairly obvious -- but has anyone *ever* had a new 
> domain terminated for not falling under the scope of the proposed 
> charter?  Just look at ICANN, how many personal domains do you see 
> registered as a .com?
> 
> For what it's worth, I really have nothing more than a vague concept of 
> what the charters say for any of the opennic TLDs, including the many 
> that I run.  I've never proposed a new TLD myself, and never written a 
> charter.
> 
> So perhaps instead of discussing how domains under .libre may not suit 
> the charter, we really should be discussing if we have a reasonable 
> expectation for the charters of all the TLDs, and perhaps revisit each 
> one with an eye towards the reality of opennic and the domains within 
> our project.  Is it reasonable to block commercial domains in .libre?  
> Perhaps in an ideal setting where commercial domains might actually 
> exist here, but the reality is that there is not, and probably never 
> will be commercial domains under opennic, so the restriction has no 
> meaning and therefore has no reason to be stated.
> 
> If I were to rewrite charters based completely on the actual usage of 
> opennic, they would be short and to the point...
> 
> .dyn: Dynamic DNS only, no subdomains.  Requires regular renewals.
> .geek: Projects, with some emphasis towards technology.
> .indy: Projects outside of the mainstream?
> .libre: Personal domains.
> .oss: Software and hardware
> .parody: Making fun of others, not to be confused with any official 
> personal or product pages
> .pirate: websites that may not be entirely legal in some countries
> 
> I mean really, does anything more need to be said other than an intended 
> category to help members decide where their new domain should go?  And 
> if it came right down to it, the 'new' charter for .libre would still 
> restrict commercial usage without specifically calling it out, but if 
> there were a demand for commercial domains then I think we would want to 
> create a new TLD specifically for businesses.  We could use something 
> like .prod for selling products?
> 
> Getting back to the original question, I think what we need to decide 
> specifically for .libre is whether it should be redefined as open for 
> domains of *any* purpose, or open only for noncommercial use and 
> allowing a greater freedom of choice for individuals who can't compete 
> financially with businesses?  Either definition has implied restrictions 
> on the freedom these domains provide, however I believe that the opennic 
> project should be catering more to the individuals who keep it alive and 
> not worry about locking out non-existent business prospects from a 
> single TLD choice.
> 
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