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  • From: Jeff Taylor <shdwdrgn AT sourpuss.net>
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  • Subject: Re: [opennic-discuss] Update to the servers page
  • Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2017 12:03:15 -0600
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The main problem we're running in to is the lack of space with no other way to easily display the various options on the front page.  The text boxes take up a lot of space.  Even as it is now, many IPv6 addresses are being line-wrapped.

A note about both the flags and the sponsored icons.. you can hover your mouse over them and get a tooltip with information.  However I do have an idea on getting the sponsor info on the page, let me experiment with that...


On 09/08/2017 10:01 AM, Sebastian Makowiecki wrote:
In my honest opinion the flags are not as neat as the previous solution. Text boxes with added colours would look better, but 'better' in my opinion just.

On 8 September 2017 15:36:48 GMT+01:00, Jonah Aragon <jonah AT triplebit.net> wrote:
I was just looking at the sponsored icons myself and I can't see a way that they could look good at all. In my view, we should just remove the icon entirely and make the "Sponsored by" text box visible when viewing the page, which inexplicably it isn't at the moment.

I don't really think that icon benefits either visitors or sponsors (as I'm betting not many average people are aware of the hovering to see the alt text, and the information isn't available in the server page itself). Maybe a sponsor here can correct me, but I personally removed all the "Sponsored" text from my servers and typed a little something in the description instead. Makes it look a bit better.

Jonah

On Sep 8, 2017 12:41 AM, "Christopher" <weblionx AT gmail.com> wrote:
Awesome, that's looking pretty good. Thanks for your work. :) One
thought came to mind, would the sponsored icon be better off as part
of the flags column? Seems like that'd keep it neater.

On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 12:54 AM, Jeff Taylor <shdwdrgn AT sourpuss.net> wrote:
> Also note that a purple flag overrides a blue flag -- you can't have both.
>
> I also forgot to mention a new option has been added to the editing page.
> In the box for how many hours you keep logs, if you enter 0 (zero) then it
> means you don't keep logs at all.  Since this was never indicated before
> except through a logging policy comment, the new option provides a value
> that can be shown with the flags.
>
>
>
> On 09/07/2017 08:22 PM, Jonah Aragon wrote:
>
> In my view, anonymized logs are logs that are kept but maybe masking the IP
> addresses or other identifying information so they can't be directly linked
> to you. Whereas no logs kept would indicate that no query logging of any
> kind would ever take place.
>
> Of course, many servers probably don't keep logs but are using the
> anonymized checkbox to indicate that point, which is why it was decided to
> differentiate between the two options. Any server operators that do that
> should probably update their server page to show that purple flag instead.
>
> It's really just a scale,
>
> 1. Full Logging/No or Unknown Policy
> 2. Anonymized Logging
> 3. No logging
>
> Jonah
>
> On Sep 7, 2017 5:42 PM, "Daniel Quintiliani" <danq AT runbox.com> wrote:
>>
>> I see there is now a difference between "Anonymized logs" and "No logs
>> kept" - what is the difference?
>>
>> --
>>
>> -Dan Q
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 07 Sep 2017 16:23:03 -0600, Jeff Taylor <shdwdrgn AT sourpuss.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > https://servers.opennic.org/
>> >
>> > I wanted to announce an update to the user interface today, with a bit
>> > more still to come.  First off, I am using colored flags on the left
>> > side now to represent certain aspects of each server and provide more
>> > space as we add other options in the future.
>> >
>> > I also mostly eliminated the colored bars and am using triangles on the
>> > right side to represent the state of each server.
>> >
>> > Finally, there is not a distinct different in the servers listed
>> > depending on whether or not you are logged in to the page.  Guest
>> > visitors will see a smaller list showing servers that are actively
>> > online or experiencing brief failures.  If you log in with your opennic
>> > account, you will see the complete list that was shown on the old page.
>> > I thought it would be more useful for the occasional visitors if they
>> > only saw the servers that would useful to them as DNS providers.
>> >
>> > I also added a new script for the back-side processes.  Some may have
>> > noticed the number of servers pending deletion has continually grown.
>> > The new script will move those server to a deleted status after 90
>> > days.  As a quick review, and server that continually fails testing or
>> > is offline for more than 48 hours will be moved to the 'remove'
>> > category. You must go in and manually change your status back to
>> > 'updated' after fixing the server if you want it to continue being
>> > listed for opennic, or it will be moved to the 'deleted' category after
>> > 90 days.  One year after being moved to 'deleted', a server will be
>> > scrubbed from the database (sometimes people do come back).
>> >
>> > I'm also going to try working on the email notifications again so you
>> > may start seeing those in your mailboxes once more.  PLEASE make sure
>> > that the 'private' email address you have entered on the members page is
>> > valid, that is the address used by the server to communicate any
>> > problems.
>> >
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