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[Matthias Merkel <matthias AT boltn-hosting.com>]

Just to clarify: I don't think the people running the Tier 1 and Tier 2 servers will ignore the votes. I just say that they could.

On Mon, Jan 1, 2018, 1:23 AM Matthias Merkel <matthias AT boltn-hosting.com> wrote:

Another thing about the democracy part I'd like to highlight is that in fact not the democracy but a few people operating Tier 1 and Tier 2 servers rule. These people are currently accepting the vote results but there is in fact nothing preventing them from adding own TLDs, removing TLDs, blocking some domains or even hijacking domains (!!!). IMPORTANT NOTE FOR ANYBODY WHO WILL OPERATE A CA IN THE FUTURE: ALWAYS FETCH THE DOMAIN DNS RECORDS FROM THE TLDs NAMESERVERS AND NOT FROM A THIRD-PARTY TIER 1 OR TIER 2 SERVER.

A solution to this problem would be using blockchain for votes and stuff but that would be a whole different project.

On Mon, Jan 1, 2018, 1:10 AM Christopher <weblionx AT gmail.com> wrote:

I'm sorry to hear you have lost all enthusiasm for OpenNIC after one
failed TLD vote. If that's not true and you still have some, perhaps
take into account the reasons people have voted against it, enhancing
the proposal, and trying again; making sure to follow all current
rules on discussion and voting. Otherwise best of luck in your future
endeavors.

On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 6:25 PM,  <gitgud AT tfwno.gf> wrote:
> As is probably obvious by now, with the vote for .front concluded, the
> resolution
> to approve .front as a top level domain has failed. In a tally of 14 YES -
> 14 NO,
> the motion has failed to achieve a simple majority of support in the mailing
> list.
>
> There's a lot to get into, but to start, I will fully admit that I have been
> less
> than stringent about the "official procedure" of this vote. As it stands,
> the voting
> rules in place are nebulous, lack comprehensiveness, and leave a lot of
> responsibility
> to the person who puts forward the proposal. This is nobody's fault, as not
> much has
> actually come through the mailing list in a while, but is likely an
> oversight that will
> need to be addressed in the future. If I took liberties during the
> proceedings,
> it is because I found them necessary to take and the members of the
> community I talked
> with were largely comfortable with me doing so.
>
> There was a certain point in this vote when I asked one voter, Philipp
> Schafft, to clarify
> an invalid vote he had cast during this vote. Philipp, a Tier One operator
> and key member of
> the organization, used the opportunity to step onto a soap box and claim
> that his actions and
> his right to them were a pillar of democratic values that must not be
> infringed, and that my
> request that he "fix" his vote was an assault on these values. That
> everything I had done was
> invalid and undemocratic, and that I had in some way violated the sacred
> "democracy" of OpenNIC.
>
> On a vote as contentious as .front's has been, I wagered that Philipp would
> perhaps want the opportunity
> to think and respond more critically on the vote than he had, especially
> with his considerable position
> in the organization. In whatever misguided way I figured the decision
> validated the request, I was
> trying to be polite and give him an opportunity he might have taken for
> granted earlier in the vote at
> our proverbial round table.
>
> OpenNIC is not a state, but an organization. Perhaps in a democracy that
> governs a nation and not
> servers, Philipp would have a point about "freedom of speech", the
> importance of his ability
> to cast an inane vote, and the required inflexibility of the rules in place.
> But this isn't a parliament
> or a state house, but a mailing list for an alternative DNS. More
> importantly, this is an organization
> where flexibility is not just the norm, but an outright sanity measure that
> makes working on this project
> bearable.
>
> Meanwhile, despite a lengthy comment period of over a months, few of the
> users that participated in
> the vote ever commented or suggested amendment to the proposal, simply
> showing up to voice their
> disapproval of this addition to the proposal. Some in the IRC had not even
> read the proposal,
> and were under the impression that the proposal had nothing to do with its
> stated objective.
> Admittedly, this is their right; still, I can't help but regard a lot of the
> opposition and
> even a lot of the support as "arbitrary" since it was afforded scarce
> attention before the vote
> began.
>
> So with that vote chucked in the bin, the whole .front resolution fails to
> pass. I'm sure Philipp will
> take issue with the fact that I included a vote cast shortly after the
> stated end of the ballot in the tally,
> but to the credit of that person, his vote was an intelligible response and
> at this stage, the ultimate and
> final result of the vote remains unchanged. After months of ramblings about
> unbreakable Malbolge encrypted
> domain names, talk of establishing top level domains for trademarked video
> game brands, and a completely
> stalled effort towards establishing or at least adopting a Certificate
> Authority, I had imagined that the
> .front proposal backed by members of the already proven team administrating
> the .chan top level domain would
> be a breath of fresh air.
>
> I was wrong.
>
> I don't know what I'll do from here. But I do know that I no longer have the
> enthusiasm I did for this project
> or the hope that I will be able to accomplish anything meaningful as a
> member of it. I feel like I've wasted my
> time and effort contributing to it, and that I've wasted the time of others
> in encouraging others to do the same.
> It was a considerable endeavor undertaken by verax and Pathore to write and
> deploy an entirely new registration system
> capable of supporting registration across multiple TLDs including .chan, and
> as of present, I do not feel confident that
> their time was well spent.
>
> That's it.
>
>
>
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BoltN Hosting Limited
https://boltn-hosting.com
Company registration number 11081979