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  • From: Jonah Aragon <jonah AT triplebit.net>
  • To: discuss AT lists.opennicproject.org
  • Subject: Re: [opennic-discuss] [PROPOSAL] Implementing Piwik Web Analytics
  • Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2018 00:25:02 +0000

Collecting analytics would benefit Tier 2 operators because we would have a more accurate representation of where our users are coming from, and could perhaps make more decisions regarding location, etc. of our servers taking that into account. 

It would also benefit developers of our secondary services like the wiki, website, and server directory for the reasons I mentioned previously. 

The anonymous data I mentioned previously would be available publicly via the web interface and an API to the public, no login required. Scraping that data would be silly in my opinion, but since again, the data is available to everybody, making a tool that does that is definitely something you could do if you wanted. 

Privacy policies are relatively non-complex documents. Modifying https://piwik.org/privacy-policy/ (which is what Piwik recommends) would be a simple task. 

Jonah

On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 6:02 PM Daniel Quintiliani <danq AT runbox.com> wrote:
On Wed, 3 Jan 2018 17:31:48 -0600, Jonah Aragon <jonah AT triplebit.net> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Google and myself don't know what 'Analog' is.
>

Analog Stats, it runs on the host like you said Piwik did.

> Why would we do this
>
>
> As I mentioned, "It's for insight into who visits our community and where
> they come from mainly." Also, as Amunak mentioned, data like this can be
> helpful for resolving technical issues with our services, and developing
> new features, etc.
>

How would collecting personally identifiable information on anonymous visitors to the Web site affect the OpenNIC DNS servers and use of them?

> Some
> additional data will be available to certain individuals which would
> include the anonymized IP addresses and some browser information. Those
> individuals would likely just be the maintainers of our various web
> services: I'm guessing Fusl, Shdwdrgn (Jeff Taylor), and myself. But anyone
> who reasonably requires additional information could be granted access as
> well.
>

Yeah, of course, once again you come up with something that benefits you. Well at least the rest of the "OpenNIC elite" would directly benefit this time.

> who does it benefit
>
> It benefits the website administrators and maintainers in a technical
> sense. But really it benefits the entire community organizationally:
>

If this is truly transparent according to OpenNIC's mission then raw dumps would be available to anyone on request, and there would be monthly or biweekly postings of the "anonymized" data to the mailing list, for everyone.

Also, another issue to bring up, we would need an attorney to draft up the privacy policy. Who pays for that? You? Fusl? Jeff?

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