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["Daniel Quintiliani" <danq AT runbox.com>]

What the hell do you want of me? Everything is listed and counted, and 
displayed below. I have never heard of an "invalid" vote which was not a 
"write in". I counted every vote, yours listed and spelled out entirely, and 
per the procedures we approved the voting started at 8/9/2018 0030 UTC and 
ended at 8/16/2018 0030 UTC, both of which were clearly listed in the 
proposal, and no votes were cast outside that period regardless. If you think 
breaking the rules we established is "rigging" then you clearly have a 
problem with OpenNIC, not me. How can I get you off my ass? What do you want?

--

-Dan Q

On Thu, 16 Aug 2018 06:06:13 +0000, Philipp Schafft <lion AT lion.leolix.org> 
wrote:

> Good morning,
> 
> On Wed, 2018-08-15 at 20:35 -0400, Daniel Quintiliani wrote:
> > Apologies, Niles' vote got detached from the thread because he at first 
> > sent it to me directly by accident. The result is the same.
> > 
> > Yes:
> >  
> > Daniel Quintiliani
> >  
> > No:
> >  
> > Amunak
> > Megan Parat
> > Dennis Emory Hannon
> > Verax
> > Niles Rogoff
> > 
> > Write-ins:
> >  
> > Philipp Schafft: "Wer von seinen Ängsten geleitet wird, wird die 
> > Schönheit des
> > Tages nicht erkennen."
> >  
> > kevin: "Ki a félelmei irányítják, nem ismerik fel a nap
> > szépségét."
> > 
> > Yes: 1
> > No: 5
> > Write in "Wer...": 1
> > Write in "Ki...": 1
> > 
> > This proposal failed to pass with 1-5.
> 
> 
> > All write-ins have been listed in this post, so no need to troll.
> 
> Then why do you troll by not counting votes?
> 
> I have not submitted a write-in, I have voted invalid as made clearly by
> me writing "My vote is:".
> 
> What is your problem with just counting votes as they are?
> 
> Not counting votes you don't like is not the way voting works. Why not
> also just not count "no"-votes? Or votes made between 07:03 UTC and
> 14:23 UTC?
> 
> Voting means to count *all* votes.
> 
> With people having told you this before I hardly see any other way than
> calling this active vote rigging by you. Something that, in a real
> democracy, would invalidate the voting entirely.
> 
> Sadly OpenNIC seems to not stand for democracy as it used to before. It
> used to be one of the main pillars of OpenNIC and was often referred to
> as what gives OpenNIC it's legitimation over e.g. ICANN. If this pillar
> is destroyed I see the value of OpenNIC itself being destroyed and it's
> legitimation to exist with it.
> 
> With best regards,
> 
> 
> > 
> > --
> > 
> > -Dan Q
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, 15 Aug 2018 20:30:37 -0400 (EDT), "Daniel Quintiliani" 
> > <danq AT runbox.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > On Wed, 08 Aug 2018 20:28:01 -0400 (EDT), "Daniel Quintiliani" 
> > > <danq AT runbox.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Voting starts: 8/9/2018 0030 UTC
> > > > Voting ends: 8/16/2018 0030 UTC
> > > > 
> > > > OpenNIC proposals shall not contain, in full or in part, language 
> > > > which:
> > > > 
> > > > * Praises an OpenNIC member on basis of their character or actions,
> > > > * Condemns an OpenNIC member on basis of their character or actions,
> > > > * Makes allegations of unethical or illegal activity by an OpenNIC 
> > > > member, unless confirmed by a court of law, and/or
> > > > * Criticizes or comments on a proposal or vote, past or present, 
> > > > whether passed or failed, in which an OpenNIC member is criticized on 
> > > > basis of their character or actions.
> > > > 
> > > > The proposal shall take effect immediately after passing.
> > > > 
> > > > These rules are only applicable to proposals put up for vote, not to 
> > > > mailing list or IRC discussion.
> 
> -- 
> Philipp.
>  (Rah of PH2)
> 
> 
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