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Re: [opennic-discuss] Limitations on the number of T2 servers per person?


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  • From: "Paginas Web y Servidores :: Ventas" <ventas AT dedicados.com.mx>
  • To: discuss AT lists.opennicproject.org,Daniel Quintiliani <danq AT runbox.com>
  • Subject: Re: [opennic-discuss] Limitations on the number of T2 servers per person?
  • Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 15:50:57 -0500

I have some servers I want to add back to the list

Are in USA and have DDoS protection. I remove them because some abuse.

Would be better to have private list for registered users?





El 16 de octubre de 2015 3:30:36 PM CDT, Daniel Quintiliani <danq AT runbox.com> escribió:
There's only one problem - the DoS attacks that occasionally happen, OpenNIC would be less usable if there were fewer targets to take down.

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On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 13:55:33 -0600, Jeff Taylor <shdwdrgn AT sourpuss.net> wrote:

As you may (or may not) be aware, recently one of the T2 operators was
forced to shut down most of their servers overnight. Unfortunately at
the time, this person was running about 50% of the total list of public
servers. Messages were sent to the mailing list, the servers were
removed from the listings, and some of the servers were able to brought
back again soon after.

We've had some debates on IRC already regarding whether there should be
limitations placed on how many servers each individual is allowed to add
to the public list (which affects things such as the nearest-servers
info displayed on opennic's homepage). There are pro and con points to
this argument. If we allow unlimited server entries, it greatly expands
the reach of opennic with local servers in more countries. However in a
situation such as this, where a large number of servers are shut down at
once, it hurts opennic's credibility and reliability, especially for
those who like to set their DNS server entries and forget about them
(this describes a large number of people who set up a home router or
access point).

Keeping this in mind, these are our options:
1) allow unlimited entries
2) limit the number of entries per person to a fixed number
3) limit the number of entries based on a formula, taking into account
the current number of public servers, and/or the amount of time a user
has successfully provided public servers.

Number 3 seems to offer the best option, so long-time members can
provide larger numbers of servers. Even within that, there are
sub-options to consider:
3a) Number is a percentage of total servers -- if there are 70 public
servers and we user 10% as our base, then each user would be allowed to
list 7 servers.
3b) Add the percentage to a base number -- we could allow everyone 5 +
10%, so as above this would currently give everyone a total of 12
servers they could provide.
3c) Calculate a number from the length of time the user has been hosting
public servers -- For a simple example, let's say 1 server per every
month of hosting, so someone who has run servers for 10 months would be
allowed to list up to 10 servers.

Most likely we would want to create a combination of the above...
something like a base of 2 servers, plus 5% of total servers for every 3
months of hosting. This would ensure a new user doesn't have too many
entries to begin with, but that they become more trusted with long-term
involvement with the project.

Please discuss how this should be handled. We need to decide how we
want to handle this and implement a solid solution that is fair to
everyone. If you have ideas for a formula to use, please explain why
you like it. If there are other variables that should be considered,
let me know and I'll see if it's something I can implement.


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