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  • From: Hunter 9999 <mail AT hunter-9999.de>
  • To: discuss AT lists.opennicproject.org
  • Subject: Re: [opennic-discuss] OpenNIC Domains Registration Fee - Liberland domains .LL
  • Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2016 22:46:24 +0100

I have forgotten that point :-/
I would vote yes in general for this TLD, but not if it could cost money.



Am 7. Dezember 2016 19:59:19 MEZ schrieb Maiyannah Bishop
<maiyannah.bishop AT postactiv.com>:
>So long as there is the commercial aspect my vote is NO. Dispute
>resolution processes should not be a matter of "he with the most money,
>wins"
>-mb
>
>On 2016-12-07 07:10, Hunter 9999 wrote:
>> That sounds good.
>> I would also vote yes.
>> It could be really nice to promote OpenNIC and have an easy and ccTLD
>like TLD for Liberland.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 7. Dezember 2016 13:05:25 MEZ schrieb Gregor <delphi4u AT gmail.com>:
>>> Hey guys,
>>> Yeah, there might be some confusion with LL/ll and II/ii but, there
>is
>>> not much we can do about it.
>>>
>>> Liberland is now widely recognized entity/organisation in world of
>>> media.... it has articles about it in almost all big press agencies
>of
>>> the world... BBC, CNN, Washington Post, The Times,... etc... It has
>>> represetative offices in over 80 countries. So I guess we can
>consider
>>> it preety serious entity/organisation whatever you like.
>>> As you might see they already choose .LL to be their TLD, as
>currently
>>> they are using .LL.LAND for their domains. For example:
>>> http://redcross.ll.land/
>>> https://market.ll.land/
>>> http://cadastral.ll.land/
>>> and so on.
>>> So I guess most logical tranistion would then be just to cut .LAND
>off
>>> and only use .LL and firstly doing it on OpenNIC would be, in my
>>> opinion, great promotion for both sides.
>>>
>>> So If you will vote to peer .LL domains to OpenNIC, my vote is
>>Yes<.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>>
>>> Simon Castano je 6.12.2016 ob 13:01 napisal:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> We are planning to register .LL for LiberLand, so no rush for you
>to
>>>> claim .II
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>> Simon
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2016-12-03 09:41, spaesani AT mail.com wrote:
>>>>> Simon I'm going to have an issue with a .II tld as I have been
>>>>> attempting to get that going here since at least June 2015.
>>>>> I've been designing / developing iinteractive software for some
>time
>>>>> and this is the release venue.
>>>>> I haven't put through a tld request as various issues needed to be
>>>>> worked out, namely, 2 letter TLDs which was resolves a while back.
>>>>> If I have to put in a tld request ASAP to "stake a claim " I'd
>>>>> appreciate older members letting me know.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Sent from myMail app for Android Tuesday, 29 November 2016,
>09:29AM
>>>>> -05:00 from "Simon Castano" :
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have joined this mailing list not long ago and would like to
>get
>>>>>> some
>>>>>> clarifications with regards to registration fee for domain names.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Reading OpenNIC charter, I could not find anything preventing one
>>> to
>>>>>> charge registration fee for domain names. On the other hand, I
>feel
>>>>>> reluctance for approving domain names that would charge a
>>>>>> registration
>>>>>> fee.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To me, and to reply to the below, even ICANN domains' are free to
>>>>>> use as
>>>>>> one do not pay ICANN when resolving google.com - on the other
>side,
>>>>>> running a DNS server or a website is nerver free as one has to
>host
>>>>>> website and DNS servers.
>>>>>> On top of that I think there may be semantic issue with the term
>>>>>> "free"
>>>>>> in the below; which I'd translate to "libre" meaning it is open
>to
>>>>>> anyone rather than "gratis".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Could you pelase share your opinion on this?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For reference, note that we (Liberland) are planning to run
>OpenNIC
>>>>>> servers to operate ".ll" TLD with a bridge to decentralized DNS
>and
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> PKI based on Bitcoin blockchain. We are planning to use our
>>>>>> E-Resindency
>>>>>> app as an easy entry point to resolve OpenNIC domain.
>>>>>> In the meantime, we are lobying to have LL added to the ISO
>3166-1
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> obtain ICANN delegation to operate this ccTLD so that .ll wesites
>>>>>> can be
>>>>>> reached by a broader audience. Note that we would keep on
>operating
>>>>>> OpenNIC servers.
>>>>>> To come back on domain registration fee: we were planning on some
>>>>>> sort
>>>>>> of auction where domains registration would be free (i.e. gratis)
>>>>>> unless
>>>>>> interested parties bid domain up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> More details to follow on the above at a later stage.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> Simon J. Castaño Segondy
>>>>>> Member of the representation of the Free Republic of Liberland in
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> Netherlands
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2016-11-25 15:46, Hunter 9999 wrote:
>>>>>>> On our website we say "It’s free to use".
>>>>>>> For me that includes the usage as domain registrar.
>>>>>>> So we shouldn't charge for domain registrations.
>>>>>>> And if I remember right, we have already discussed that on the
>>>>>>> mailinglist before, with the result, that we will never charge
>for
>>>>>>> registrations.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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