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  • From: Gregor <delphi4u AT gmail.com>
  • To: discuss AT lists.opennicproject.org
  • Subject: Re: [opennic-discuss] OpenNIC Domains Registration Fee - Liberland domains .LL
  • Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2016 13:05:25 +0100

Hey guys,
Yeah, there might be some confusion with LL/ll and II/ii but, there is not much we can do about it.

Liberland is now widely recognized entity/organisation in world of media.... it has articles about it in almost all big press agencies of the world... BBC, CNN, Washington Post, The Times,... etc... It has represetative offices in over 80 countries. So I guess we can consider it preety serious entity/organisation whatever you like.
As you might see they already choose .LL to be their TLD, as currently they are using .LL.LAND for their domains. For example:
http://redcross.ll.land/
https://market.ll.land/
http://cadastral.ll.land/
and so on.
So I guess most logical tranistion would then be just to cut .LAND off and only use .LL and firstly doing it on OpenNIC would be, in my opinion, great promotion for both sides.

So If you will vote to peer .LL domains to OpenNIC, my vote is >Yes<.

Cheers


Simon Castano je 6.12.2016 ob 13:01 napisal:
Hi,

We are planning to register .LL for LiberLand, so no rush for you to claim .II

Cheers,

---
Simon


On 2016-12-03 09:41, spaesani AT mail.com wrote:
Simon I'm going to have an issue with a .II tld as I have been
attempting to get that going here since at least June 2015.
I've been designing / developing iinteractive software for some time
and this is the release venue.
I haven't put through a tld request as various issues needed to be
worked out, namely, 2 letter TLDs which was resolves a while back.
If I have to put in a tld request ASAP to "stake a claim " I'd
appreciate older members letting me know.

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Sent from myMail app for Android Tuesday, 29 November 2016, 09:29AM
-05:00 from "Simon Castano" :

Dear all,

I have joined this mailing list not long ago and would like to get
some
clarifications with regards to registration fee for domain names.

Reading OpenNIC charter, I could not find anything preventing one to

charge registration fee for domain names. On the other hand, I feel
reluctance for approving domain names that would charge a
registration
fee.

To me, and to reply to the below, even ICANN domains' are free to
use as
one do not pay ICANN when resolving google.com - on the other side,
running a DNS server or a website is nerver free as one has to host
website and DNS servers.
On top of that I think there may be semantic issue with the term
"free"
in the below; which I'd translate to "libre" meaning it is open to
anyone rather than "gratis".

Could you pelase share your opinion on this?

For reference, note that we (Liberland) are planning to run OpenNIC
servers to operate ".ll" TLD with a bridge to decentralized DNS and
a
PKI based on Bitcoin blockchain. We are planning to use our
E-Resindency
app as an easy entry point to resolve OpenNIC domain.
In the meantime, we are lobying to have LL added to the ISO 3166-1
and
obtain ICANN delegation to operate this ccTLD so that .ll wesites
can be
reached by a broader audience. Note that we would keep on operating
OpenNIC servers.
To come back on domain registration fee: we were planning on some
sort
of auction where domains registration would be free (i.e. gratis)
unless
interested parties bid domain up.

More details to follow on the above at a later stage.

Thanks

---
Simon J. Castaño Segondy
Member of the representation of the Free Republic of Liberland in
the
Netherlands

On 2016-11-25 15:46, Hunter 9999 wrote:
On our website we say "It’s free to use".
For me that includes the usage as domain registrar.
So we shouldn't charge for domain registrations.
And if I remember right, we have already discussed that on the
mailinglist before, with the result, that we will never charge for
registrations.



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