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Saturday, 03 December 2016, 05:01PM -05:00 from "Aaron J. Angel" <aaron.angel AT gmail.com>:

spaesani,

You are correct that the RFC does not establish a list of two-letter codes to be used as ccTLDs. It also does not specify any more than a small number of gTLDs, yet we have plenty more than originally listed. It does, however, incorporate ISO 3316-1 alpha-2 by reference, which is also the only source for current two-letter TLDs. All other TLDs, even the new ones approved by ICANN, are more than two characters in length.

I find it difficult to support any other use for two-letter TLDs given that the list of country codes is an external source that is subject to revision, especially one with whose author we have no qualms. This is similar to the problem of new but overlapping ICANN-approved gTLDs, except that OpenNIC has a strong disliking, I think, to the way ICANN approves new gTLDs. This is not the case with the ISO country codes.

If your problem with limiting two-letter TLDs to ccTLDs is that we are absent a policy of disallowing any other use, I would be firmly on the side of establishing such a policy.

Regards,

Aaron

On Sat, Dec 3, 2016, 3:21 PM <spaesani AT mail.com> wrote:

Check again

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Saturday, 03 December 2016, 03:05PM -05:00 from Maiyannah Bishop <maiyannah.bishop AT postactiv.com>:

This sounds like an awfully long way of saying "the people disagree with me, so only the people whom are educated and agree with me should count"

Which uh, isn't how democracies work, last I checked.
-mb

On 2016-12-03 14:57, spaesani AT mail.com wrote:

As I said this was covered in August and november both times with reference to and clarification of the RFC which in no way reserves all 2 letter TLDs for countries.
If I add my two cents there are also three letter country codes referred to by the RFC  through it's qualification of country codes being those defined by iso 3166
and as with two letter TLDs 3 letter TLDs are in no way reserved for countries (quite obviously).
The RFC goes further and clearly states that it does not determine what a country code is.
Now,  that's not an opennic votable.
It's what the RFC clearly states and what members have shown multiple times that it clearly states.
As for imposing when obvious falicies in this regard are presented and used to argue opennic votables, eg, tld requests, it can not but come across as an attempt to  impose as falicies are a core constituent, along with force,  of what imposing is comprised of whereas the voice of reason based on facts, and here specifically facts pertaining to the RFC in question, make up Democratic decisions.
I'd continue on and write a book but I'm on my mobile .

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Saturday, 03 December 2016, 01:55PM -05:00 from Verax <verax AT 8chan.co>:

No one's imposing any views on anyone. If it goes to a vote, we will
abide the majority

However, I don't think ignoring standards (RFCs) is a good idea. The
reservation on 2-letter TLDs exists for a good reason, so unless you
have a better one, I believe it should stand.

That said, I'm fine with New Nations, or anything else representing an
nation level entity getting 2-letter TLDs.

Regards,
Verax

spaesani AT mail.com wrote:
> We went over this for the opennic tld itself whereby you were proposing .on
> We also went over it for .js
> The only conflict are those who are imposing their views on the majority
> which is against opennics own policies and charter.
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> Saturday, 03 December 2016, 01:14PM -05:00 from Jonah Aragon
> <jonaharagon AT gmail.com <mailto:jonaharagon AT gmail.com>>:
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> There is a lot of conflict about two letter TLDs, however if you do
> represent a country, even a contested or unrecognized one you may
> have better luck, we do peer with New Nations after all, and they do
> the same thing.
>
> Jonah
>
> On Dec 3, 2016 2:41 AM, <spaesani AT mail.com
> <//e-aj.my.com/compose/?mailto=mailto%3aspaesani AT mail.com>> wrote:
>
> Simon I'm going to have an issue with a .II tld as I have been
> attempting to get that going here since at least June 2015.
> I've been designing / developing iinteractive software for some
> time and this is the release venue.
> I haven't put through a tld request as various issues needed to
> be worked out, namely, 2 letter TLDs which was resolves a while
> back.
> If I have to put in a tld request ASAP to "stake a claim " I'd
> appreciate older members letting me know.
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> Tuesday, 29 November 2016, 09:29AM -05:00 from "Simon Castano"
> <discuss AT lists.opennicproject.org
> <//e-aj.my.com/compose/?mailto=mailto%3adiscuss AT lists.opennicproject.org>>:
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> Dear all,
>
> I have joined this mailing list not long ago and would like
> to get some
> clarifications with regards to registration fee for domain
> names.
>
> Reading OpenNIC charter, I could not find anything
> preventing one to
> charge registration fee for domain names. On the other hand,
> I feel
> reluctance for approving domain names that would charge a
> registration
> fee.
>
> To me, and to reply to the below, even ICANN domains' are
> free to use as
> one do not pay ICANN when resolving google.com
> <http://google.com> - on the other side,
> running a DNS server or a website is nerver free as one has
> to host
> website and DNS servers.
> On top of that I think there may be semantic issue with the
> term "free"
> in the below; which I'd translate to "libre" meaning it is
> open to
> anyone rather than "gratis".
>
> Could you pelase share your opinion on this?
>
>
> For reference, note that we (Liberland) are planning to run
> OpenNIC
> servers to operate ".ll" TLD with a bridge to decentralized
> DNS and a
> PKI based on Bitcoin blockchain. We are planning to use our
> E-Resindency
> app as an easy entry point to resolve OpenNIC domain.
> In the meantime, we are lobying to have LL added to the ISO
> 3166-1 and
> obtain ICANN delegation to operate this ccTLD so that .ll
> wesites can be
> reached by a broader audience. Note that we would keep on
> operating
> OpenNIC servers.
> To come back on domain registration fee: we were planning on
> some sort
> of auction where domains registration would be free (i.e.
> gratis) unless
> interested parties bid domain up.
>
> More details to follow on the above at a later stage.
>
> Thanks
>
> ---
> Simon J. Castaño Segondy
> Member of the representation of the Free Republic of
> Liberland in the
> Netherlands
>
> On 2016-11-25 15:46, Hunter 9999 wrote:
> > On our website we say "It’s free to use".
> > For me that includes the usage as domain registrar.
> > So we shouldn't charge for domain registrations.
> > And if I remember right, we have already discussed that on the
> > mailinglist before, with the result, that we will never
> charge for
> > registrations.
> >
> >
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