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[Jonah Aragon <jonaharagon AT gmail.com>]

I'm not sure if anybody is interested in monetizing DNS server access itself, that would be unprecedented and wouldn't really work as far as I can see, with free competition.

What Simon wants instead, I believe, and what I completely agree with, is the ability for TLD registries to charge for domain purchases. OpenNIC itself doesn't operate any of the top-level-domains we provide access to, it's a largely decentralized process, and as such OpenNIC shouldn't mandate policies regarding the operation of said domains.

Monetization of domains shouldn't be forced (like ICANN), or prohibited. But registry operators should be able to set prices as they see fit.

Maybe some regulation would need to be implemented to ensure any such monetization is fair, to prevent abuse in the form of rapidly increasing pricing or auction-based censorship (as was Liberland's original proposal), but the right to either sell or give away domains should come down to the individual admins' policies.

Jonah

On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 11:30 AM kevin <krattai AT gmail.com> wrote:

This is a good, necessary, and difficult discussion and I'm glad to see
it happening, although perhaps this specific detail should have it's own
thread.

I would rather propose that any who are interested in monetizing their
servers to operate as a separate entity to OpenNIC, while still
retaining and maintaining a direct, community relation.

In most open projects, the topic of money and monetizing comes up and
there are always to two, polar viewpoints.  And as is historically
evident, it splits a group with one core going in one direction,
creating a fork, leaving the remaining position to try to deal with
what's left.

Rather than having those that are absolutely opposed to having OpenNIC
changing its mandate of free/libre, run by volunteers utilizing donated
infrastructure, it would perhaps be more valuable and valid that those
interested in monetizing, form a fork that utilizes OpenNIC resource,
while providing some business value.

Scale is not an issue when using a distributed system that in fact, by
nature, scales.

Cheers,

Kevin

On Fri, 2016-12-09 at 17:26 +0100, Simon Castano wrote:
<snip>
> On 2016-12-08 04:28, Jonah Aragon wrote:
> > From a common sense perspective at the moment, it makes no sense to
> > charge
> > for domains because OpenNIC--while being the largest alt-root--still
> > has no
> > significant usage in the real world. But OpenNIC as a project should
> > not be
> > about limiting the rights of TLD operators; and it shouldn't force the
> > distribution of said earnings among all contributors to the project
> > either.
>
> I could not have said it better. Gratis works nice at the moment but if
> OpenNIC were to scale I trust that most operator could not affoard
> high-end / high-capacity and we need to make sure we can scale as
> appropriate.

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