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[<vv AT cgs.pw>]

I for one would be more likely to accept a TLD that had
the infrastructure in place. It shows some commitment.

To me a "potentially good" TLD is one set up by some
people who are committed and will add something to
the community beyond a couple of letters and a dot.

~ Ole


On Fri, 21 Jul 2017 09:11:22 +0100
Al Beano <albino AT autistici.org> wrote:

> So, supposing a TLD could demonstrate a working DNS and
> web setup, would you be more willing to consider
> accepting it? 
> 
> I agree that it's detrimental to have several TLDs in the
> 'Soon™' stage, but rejecting newer TLDs because a couple
> of older ones have not fully finished setting up seems
> like it might stop potentially good new TLDs being added
> to the network. 
> 
> albino
> 
> On 21 July 2017 02:55:18 BST, Theo B <me AT theos.space>
> wrote:
> >By working order, I meant a working T1 DNS server, with
> >a working online
> >registration system (not just a page saying to contact
> >the owner).
> >
> >-Theo B.
> >
> >On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 9:18 PM, <vv AT cgs.pw> wrote:
> >  
> >> Are they not all in working order?
> >>
> >> Also, what constitutes "working order"?
> >>
> >> It is indeed a problem. There are skills,
> >> time, and resources required to to this
> >> and they have to be available ALL the time.*
> >> Not just for a few months, and then take
> >> a vacation or whatever. People who get
> >> a domain under a TLD rely on the TLD operators
> >> and it's not fair (or appropriate) to let
> >> them down. Certainly not without notice.
> >>
> >> On the other hand, perhaps some churn is
> >> appropriate in this case. I don't know. I guess
> >> there different missions for OpenNIC DNS
> >> servers and OpenNIC TLDs.
> >>
> >> ~ Ole
> >>
> >> PS: I imagine that "all the time" would be for
> >> the foreseeable future, which might be 2 months
> >> for a 20yo and 20 years for an old fart like me.
> >> Our community is always going to be a wide mix.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, 20 Jul 2017 21:04:28 -0400
> >> Theo B <me AT theos.space> wrote:
> >>  
> >> > I honestly think that we shouldn't have any more TLDs
> >> > until every one we currently have is in working
> >> > order. We don't need "new" until all the "old" is
> >> > all working.
> >> >
> >> > -Theo B
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 7:11 PM, Jonah Aragon
> >> > <jonaharagon AT gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >  
> >> > > I don't think we can have too many, and diversity
> >> > > is a good thing. I'd completely disagree with Theo
> >> > > here. Although on the other hand it's gonna
> >> > > completely destroy my website layout with the list
> >> > > of TLDs :(
> >> > >
> >> > > Jonah
> >> > >
> >> > > On Thu, Jul 20, 2017, 6:06 PM <vv AT cgs.pw> wrote:
> >> > >  
> >> > >> That's an interesting point Theo. What does
> >> > >> it actually matter how many TLDs OpenNIC has?
> >> > >> Perhaps too many and the whole situation becomes
> >> > >> difficult to manage? I don't know. I'm just
> >> > >> asking. If it's a matter of there being names
> >> > >> that are suitable for anything that someone might
> >> > >> want, then I'd say we need a whole lot more since
> >> > >> not one of the present ones suit my taste.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> I'd suggest however, that adding a new TLD can
> >> > >> have several possible effects on the organization.
> >> > >> One is that it just adds more deadwood. Another
> >> > >> is that it brings in more enthusiastic people.
> >> > >> This .cyb TLD looks like the latter to me.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Regards,
> >> > >>         Ole
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> On Thu, 20 Jul 2017 16:10:43 -0400
> >> > >> "Theo B." <me AT theos.space> wrote:
> >> > >>  
> >> > >> > I vote no. I do not think we need another TLD
> >> > >> > currently.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > On Jul 20, 2017, 3:39 PM -0400, Daniel
> >> > >> > Quintiliani <danq AT runbox.com>, wrote:  
> >> > >> > > You got my vote!
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > --
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > -Dan Q
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > On Thu, 20 Jul 2017 19:26:05 +0000, Al Beano
> >> > >> > > <albino AT autistici.org> wrote:  
> >> > >> > > > Yeah, this is a small mistake but an
> >> > >> > > > important one, thanks for pointing it out.
> >> > >> > > > I'm glad our intentions are still clear! :-)
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > > Here's an updated version of the charter
> >> > >> > > > (the only change made was the correction
> >> > >> > > > of this typo): https://w1r3.net/JFsBcE.txt
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > > albino
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > > On 2017-07-20 19:20, Daniel Quintiliani
> >> > >> > > > wrote:  
> >> > >> > > > > Before I vote, shouldn't "administration
> >> > >> > > > > of the domain" be "administration of the
> >> > >> > > > > TLD"?
> >> > >> > > > >
> >> > >> > > > > --
> >> > >> > > > >
> >> > >> > > > > -Dan Q
> >> > >> > > > >
> >> > >> > > > >
> >> > >> > > > > On Thu, 20 Jul 2017 19:00:29 +0000, Al
> >> > >> > > > > Beano <albino AT autistici.org wrote:
> >> > >> > > > >  
> >> > >> > > > > > Hello all,
> >> > >> > > > > >
> >> > >> > > > > > It's been over a week now since I
> >> > >> > > > > > submitted the proposal for a .cyb TLD.
> >> > >> > > > > > There hasn't
> >> > >> > > > > > been any further discussion in quite a
> >> > >> > > > > > while, so I think it's a good time to
> >> > >> > > > > > call for a vote on this. As far as I am
> >> > >> > > > > > aware, votes are still carried out
> >> > >> > > > > > using the mailing list, but someone
> >> > >> > > > > > please correct me if I am mistaken.
> >> > >> > > > > >
> >> > >> > > > > > You can read the final copy of our
> >> > >> > > > > > charter here:
> >> > >> > > > > > https://w1r3.net/PaCdmj.txt
> >> > >> > > > > >
> >> > >> > > > > > Work has already begun on a web
> >> > >> > > > > > interface which could be used for .cyb.
> >> > >> > > > > > It is not yet
> >> > >> > > > > > production ready, but we have made
> >> > >> > > > > > significant inroads (approx 1000 sloc,
> >> > >> > > > > > although this is not a very useful
> >> > >> > > > > > metric).
> >> > >> > > > > >
> >> > >> > > > > > Thank you again for reading our
> >> > >> > > > > > proposal.
> >> > >> > > > > >
> >> > >> > > > > > Al Beano <albino AT autistici.org
> >> > >> > > > > > sy <sy AT zm.is
> >> > >> > > > > >
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