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"The enemy of my enemy is my friend"

I just recently came to OpenNIC as a response to the attempt of sale of 
.ORG by the Internet Society. In my opinion selling off a highly 
populated namespace such as .ORG to a Venture Capitalist is "unethical" 
- but at the same token selling an empty namespace is not.

Even the unethical part - lets face it. We live in the era of 
technological meritocracy, entire townships run their public interface 
through Facebook, business CEOs / CFOs use a gmail address as their 
official unencrypted communication lines. You cannot complain about 
"unethical" behavior when government and business officials are 
practically begging you to fleece them.

I agree with the fact that others like Epik are a magnitude more 
organized - but I do not agree with the revenue and infrastructure part. 
I am not a UNIX root, not an Infrastructure Engineer, not a Data 
Architect nor any other IT Pro. I am a railway engine technician by 
formal training, working as a manufacturing engineer, a production floor 
process and support expert. I am bringing to OpenNIC an opportunity to 
purpose-build part of its infrastructure - for manufacturing and 
warehouses. As you might have noticed, the revenue stream regarding 
manufacturing all relevant supply chain operations in the USA are about 
to go through the roof.

Epik may go and advertise, popularize the fact that there is an 
alternative to .ORG to ICANN and sell namespaces all they want. As long 
as you, and I and we as OpenNIC do not have a business plan to cash in, 
no revenue model and no infrastructure, I personally consider complaints 
a bit of envy and a lot of wishful thinking.

I could rant and rant about all these and more endlessly, and I actually 
do rant a lot on https://welcome.factoryfouroh.net/dokuwiki - read if 
you care. The bottom line is, I am trying to create a revenue stream, 
and I am creating an infrastructure and supply chain using YunoHost, 
later Virtualmin, by Debian and OpenNIC. I bring expertise from 
Manufacturing for purpose-built networks such as Environmental 
Compliance (RoHS, REACH) standards support for IPC, process 
implementation for Heat Maps, and so on. I am donating $100 USD a month 
worth of VPS into a balanced, redundant pool of XML and SQL databases, 
fully encrypted DNS, web and email, LDAP directories and web forms. And 
I am just one guy doing this, spending out of pocket.

For 100% sure, I support all ideas for a better structured, more 
organized OpenNIC - and I am 100% confident that ONE of out many ways to 
make that happen is by starting with purpose-built small networks. So 
what if we need to create TLDs which are dozen character long - to keep 
"hostile" actors like Epik away from our projects? Eventually I would 
like to create and support my own TLD on OpenNIC, which is going to be 
.factoryfouroh - or if a "hostile" entity "steals" it from me then 
".factoryfouroh9001temp". The beauty of purpose-built networks is that 
only people with vested interest visit them, and they do not care about 
the "attractiveness" of the namespace as longs as it brings in the 
dough.

I am probably wrong regarding some of what I wrote since I am not a 
trained pro in anything. All I have is ideas, time on my hand to try 
them all, and faith in myself that eventually one of them is going to be 
a success. To me, right now, OpenNIC looks invaluable for the DNS works 
and I have a vital and very specific purpose for it.

Cheers,
Sandor


On 2020-04-08 03:10, Bart Smienk wrote:
> "This is Wild West, Paul, and you know it. Epik is an order of
> magnitude more organized than most of the above listed bootstrap
> experiments with no revenue model and no infrastructure.”
>
> Sorry but am I exposed to think this is ok? It just feels extremely
> hostile, even though they’re living off the work and ideas of people
> on OpenNIC.
>
> > On 8 Apr 2020, at 00:48, Jeff Taylor <shdwdrgn AT sourpuss.net> wrote:
> >
> > An update from the founder of Epik... Apparently these are NOT
> > opennic (or other) TLDs, but rather these are all TLDs run directly
> > by Epik.  So what you're saying is that you stole all of the TLD
> > names that have been in use by other roots, in an effort to play on
> > the names and reputations already established,  Good job.
> https://www.namepros.com/threads/o-official-discussion.1184322/page-6#post-7712185
> > On 04/07/2020 04:40 PM, Jeff Taylor wrote:
> >
> > > It was brought up on IRC earlier that epik.com [1] is selling
> > > domains from opennic and other alt-TLDs.
> > > https://registrar.epik.com/prices/registration/alt
> > >
> > > I haven't been able to find any reference to this company in the
> > > user list or here on the mailing list, and there doesn't seem to
> > > be any T2 servers registered by this company.  So I'm curious what
> > > other people think about this practice?  Does anyone know if we've
> > > ever officially stated that domains can't be sold or re-sold?
> > >
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