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[Peter Green <peter AT greenpete.co.uk>]

Interesting point! :-) Anyone?

Peter

On 12.07.2012 20:32, Bjorn Peeters wrote:

> I suppose they do, but, from the project website:
>
> By using OpenNIC, you are supporting a free and censorship free 
> internet.
> OpenNIC has been used in many countries to liberate themselves from 
> the
> censorship placed on the DNS services from their governments or ISPs.
>
> So, if the registries would disallow this, would it not fall under
> censorship,
> and thus in breach with the idea of opennic?
>
> FROM: Sam Dodrill [7]
> SENT: Thursday, July 12, 2012 9:24 PM
> TO: discuss AT lists.opennicproject.org [8]
> SUBJECT: Re: [opennic-discuss] Why Bother?
>
> Don't the registries have to deal with that?
> Sam Dodrill
> mailto:shadow.h511 AT gmail.com [9]
>
> On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 12:22 PM, Bjorn Peeters 
> <bjorn AT bjornpeeters.be
> [10]> wrote:
>
> > playing a bit in the role of devil's advocate (i seem to be making a
> > hobby out of that lately);
> >
> > As you say, freedom of speech is one of the most important things - 
> > but
> > also one of the most grey areas on the web.
> > There are some things, which although they could fall under free
> > speech, are by many regarded upon as intolerable.
> >
> > How would we (well, ok, you guys, cause i'm still not running a t2 -
> > coming this year, promise!) go about those things?
> >
> > i.e.: the most current example is how anonymous is grouping together 
> > to
> > attack boards to "talk about pedophilia".
> > don't get me wrong: i don't care much for such sites, but where is 
> > the
> > line?
> > Anonymous is making clear, that for them, the "talking about
> > pedophilia" is one bridge too far.
> >
> > If there is actual sharing of illegal things, the line is very 
> > clear:
> > intolerable.
> > However, if there is only talking: does this fall under free speech, 
> > or
> > would it be intolerable?
> >
> > Again, the only clear action on the public web has been that of
> > Anonymous: they are for free speech,
> > but do not consider these things to be part of free speech.
> >
> > Due to their action, i could imagine (though i doubt it) that one of
> > those sites would move to opennic,
> > because it's currently "less visible" - excuse the phrasing.
> >
> > How would we all respond to such a site, in light of the idea of 
> > free
> > speech?
> >
> > - the devil has spoken :)
> >
> > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- From: Peter Green
> > Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 9:06 PM
> > To: discuss AT lists.opennicproject.org [2]
> > Subject: Re: [opennic-discuss] Why Bother?
> >
> > "I'm curious what makes the various people involved with OpenNIC 
> > take
> > the
> > time to try to change the way the internet works?"
> >
> > I wasn't aware we are, are we?
> >
> > As for why I got involved in OpenNIC, I believe keeping the Wibbly
> > Wobbly
> > Web open (not the Internets, that's a different thing, though 
> > equally
> > as
> > valuable) and free is essential for
> > free speech and freedom in general.
> >
> > My question would be, "why wouldn't you do something for the greater
> > good,
> > particular, freedom of speech?"
> >
> > Peter
> >
> > On 10.07.2012 04:01, woodq11 AT gmail.com [3] wrote:
> >
> > > I'm curious what makes the various people involved with OpenNIC 
> > > take
> > > the
> > > time
> > > to try to change the way the internet works?
> > >
> > > It's definitely not easy or even guaranteed to be successful
> > > (depending
> > > on
> > > what your definition of successful is, I suppose..)
> > >
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