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[kevin <krattai AT gmail.com>]

Out of curiosity, why must the TLD be .on as that is a sticking point.

Could it not be .onic or similar?

Kevin

On Fri, 2016-11-18 at 03:12 +0000, Jonah Aragon wrote:
> The RFC you linked states "There are a set of what are called
> "top-level domain names" (TLDs). These are the generic TLDs (EDU, COM,
> NET, ORG, GOV, MIL, and INT), and the two letter country codes from
> ISO-3166."
> 
> It's my understanding that it's like how all squares are rectangles
> but not all rectangles are squares: All ISO-3166 2 letter codes are 2
> letter TLDs, but all 2 letter TLDs don't necessarily have to be listed
> in the ISO-3166 specification, and they don't necessarily have to be
> ccTLDs. ICANN may be limiting gTLD registrations to 3 letters and
> above on the *off-chance* a new country code is created, but I don't
> believe IETF or OpenNIC has any prohibitions on their creation outside
> of country-code usage, and I don't think my proposal has to be changed
> at this time.
> 
> 
> Perhaps OpenNIC needs a policy change if you really think it's an
> issue?
> 
> On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 8:57 PM Tim Groeneveld <tim AT timg.ws> wrote:
> 
>         https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1591
>         
>         
>         
>                 
>                 ---- On Fri, 18 Nov 2016 13:20:58 +1100
>                 jonaharagon AT gmail.com wrote ----
>                 
>                 
>                 Could you try to find that RFC? The only specification
>                 I could find mentioned that all ISO 3166-1 codes were
>                 to be used as ccTLDs, but I couldn't find anything
>                 specifically stating all 2 letter domains were
>                 reserved for ccTLDs, regardless of whether or not they
>                 a part of that standard. 
>                 
>                 
>                 Additionally, OpenNIC has the .oz domain currently
>                 in-use, and seems to peer with New Nations which
>                 primarily uses two letter TLDs. As far as I can tell
>                 there's no OpenNIC policy prohibiting TLDs like these,
>                 since they don't interfere with any domain on ICANN's
>                 root DNS servers. 
>                 
>                 On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 7:53 PM Jacob Bachmeyer
>                 <jcb62281 AT gmail.com> wrote:
>                 
>                         The concept seems good, but the name needs to
>                         be changed.  ISO-3166
>                         provides the list of country codes and the
>                         only requirement on country
>                         codes is that they are two letters.  As I
>                         understand it, IETF reserved
>                         all two-letter TLDs as ccTLDs before ICANN
>                         ever existed, but I do not
>                         know in which RFC this was declared off the
>                         top of my head.
>                         
>                         We should not add two-letter TLDs.
>                         
>                         Jonah Aragon wrote:
>                         > I would like to start a proposal for a .on
>                         TLD on the OpenNIC network:
>                         >
>                         > ========
>                         > CHARTER
>                         > ========
>                         >
>                         > The .on TLD, operated by the dotON
>                         administration, is to be used by
>                         > commercial and non-commercial entities
>                         (individual or groups) to
>                         > promote themselves on the OpenNIC free
>                         network. This domain is
>                         > intended to be used in a general sense, akin
>                         to .com in the ICANN
>                         > network, and as such has a very general use
>                         case and little
>                         > restrictions on registration.
>                         >
>                         > Use of this TLD is not a given right to any
>                         holder, and domain names
>                         > may be revoked by the dotON administration
>                         team or by a vote of domain
>                         > holders (henceforth known as "Members"),
>                         especially pertaining to
>                         > violations of our policies (see Section 2).
>                         >
>                         > "Members" in this charter refers to owners
>                         of .on domains and not
>                         > OpenNIC members unless otherwise noted.
>                         >
>                         > 1. REGISTRATION
>                         > ----------------------------
>                         >
>                         > .on domains will be available on a
>                         first-come, first-serve basis. Some
>                         > domains have been reserved for
>                         administrative use (see Section 6)
>                         > prior to public registration.
>                         >
>                         > Registrations immediately after approval
>                         will be handled manually via
>                         > email. An automated registration system is
>                         in development and will be
>                         > available at register.on when it becomes
>                         available. Registrations will
>                         > be available from 3 month to 2 year periods.
>                         All registrations will be
>                         > available for free after approval, however,
>                         the dotON administration
>                         > holds the right to raise prices as needed to
>                         cover operating costs.
>                         >
>                         > 2. ABUSE
>                         > ---------------
>                         >
>                         > dotON will not tolerate the following
>                         behavior, and use of our domains
>                         > for any of the following is grounds for
>                         termination (see Section 3):
>                         >
>                         >  - Domain squatting
>                         >  - Spam email delivery
>                         >  - Malware distribution
>                         >  - Malicious interference with computer
>                         systems
>                         >
>                         > Our abuse policies are in line with
>                         OpenNIC's abuse policies as well
>                         > (http://wiki.opennicproject.org/TLDPolicy -
>                         "Obnoxious Activity: Spam
>                         > & Cracking"), and any policies listed there
>                         apply to .on domains as
>                         > well. dotON is not a domain police force and
>                         meaningful abuse
>                         > enforcement will be reliant on members
>                         reporting. All abusive behavior
>                         > should be immediately reported to
>                         abuse AT register.on
>                         > <mailto:abuse AT register.on> so administration
>                         can take action.
>                         >
>                         > 3. TERMINATION / REVOCATION
>                         >
>                         --------------------------------------------------
>                         >
>                         > Domains can be immediately terminated if
>                         they are found to be in
>                         > violation of our policies by the dotON
>                         administration, and a notice
>                         > will be sent to the registrant of the
>                         offending domain. Domains can
>                         > also be terminated via a member vote.
>                         Membership is granted to any
>                         > domain holder, 1 vote per member regardless
>                         of the amount
>                         > registrations they hold. Member votes are
>                         subject to policies as
>                         > listed in Section 4.
>                         >
>                         > Domains may also be revoked by the dotON
>                         administration if the OpenNIC
>                         > membership at large moves to revoke a
>                         registration. We do not foresee
>                         > a circumstance where OpenNIC as a whole will
>                         be required to vote on
>                         > the revocation of a .on domain, but if the
>                         need arises we will comply
>                         > with any such vote.
>                         >
>                         > 4. VOTING
>                         > ----------------
>                         >
>                         > All matters of administrative importance
>                         will be voted upon by members
>                         > of the dotON domain registry. Motions will
>                         be passed by a simple
>                         > majority of votes (50% + 1). The dotON
>                         administration holds the right
>                         > to veto any member votes, in order to retain
>                         control of .on operation.
>                         >
>                         > 5. DISPUTES
>                         > --------------------
>                         >
>                         > Trademark holders should email
>                         trademarks AT register.on
>                         > <mailto:trademarks AT register.on> if they wish
>                         to dispute a domain.
>                         > dotON will revoke or transfer registrations
>                         if ordered by a legitimate
>                         > court of law, as a courtesy to that country,
>                         as applicable to
>                         > OpenNIC's dispute policy.
>                         >
>                         > 6. RESERVED DOMAINS
>                         > -------------------------------------
>                         >
>                         > The following domains are reserved by the
>                         dotON administration and
>                         > will never be available for public
>                         registration:
>                         >
>                         >  - register.on - Primary .on registration
>                         website
>                         >  - www.on <http://www.on> - Redirects to
>                         register.on
>                         >  - nic.on - Redirects to register.on
>                         >  - dot.on - dotON administration, presently
>                         redirects to register.on
>                         >  - search.on - Will be hosting an
>                         OpenNIC-wide search engine
>                         >  - opennic.on - Reserved
>                         >
>                         > 7. AMENDMENTS AND MISC. POLICIES
>                         >
>                         
> -------------------------------------------------------------
>                         >
>                         > Amendments to this charter may be added by a
>                         vote of .on members.
>                         > Additionally, the dotON administration is
>                         permitted to provide a
>                         > binding user agreement for registrations at
>                         register.on that may
>                         > include policies outside the scope of this
>                         charter.
>                         >
>                         > 8. FUTURE
>                         > ----------------
>                         >
>                         > dotON is committed to the future of the
>                         OpenNIC network and will
>                         > attempt to provide, in addition to the .on
>                         Tier 1 server, Tier 2 DNS
>                         > servers to support the OpenNIC
>                         infrastructure, a search engine for the
>                         > network, email services, SSL services (under
>                         a self-hosted root CA).
>                         > These services have no deadline for
>                         completion at the moment. We also
>                         > wish to help in spreading the word about
>                         OpenNIC via self promotion
>                         > and joining the Public Relations Working
>                         Group
>                         >
>                         http://wiki.opennicproject.org/PublicRelationsWG.
>                         >
>                         > 9. CONTACTS
>                         > --------------------
>                         >
>                         >  - dotON Administration: admins AT dot.on
>                         > <mailto:admins AT dot.on>
>                         (hostmaster AT opennic.on
>                         > <mailto:hostmaster AT opennic.on> forwards
>                         here)
>                         >  - Abuse Reporting: abuse AT register.on
>                         > <mailto:abuse AT register.on> (abuse AT opennic.on
>                         > <mailto:abuse AT opennic.on> forwards here)
>                         >  - Webmaster: jonah AT dot.on
>                         <mailto:jonah AT dot.on> (webmaster AT dot.on
>                         > <mailto:webmaster AT dot.on>,
>                         webmaster AT opennic.on
>                         > <mailto:webmaster AT opennic.on> forwards here)
>                         >
>                         > ====
>                         >
>                         > Thanks for reading through this proposal, we
>                         are open to suggestions
>                         > for any changes.
>                         >
>                         > Jonah Aragon
>                         > IRC: jonaharagon on #opennic
>                         >
>                         
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