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[<vv AT cgs.pw>]

Actually it has been a "Yankee White Secret" for
a long time. lol

We've had a single small announcement on there which
was confusing visitors because it was deprecated and
misleading. It was just a matter of a few words of
plain text. Months of numerous people asking for
it to be removed only resulted in a couple of people
saying they don't know how. That makes it clear
that there are, or were, NO administrators with the
ability to access the site. Regardless of whether
"key members" should have access or not, there have
been no administrators to contact to even insult. :)
It has effectively been an orphaned site.

Hope that clears this up.

Cheers,
       Ole


On Sun, 19 Feb 2017 17:54:52 +0000
"gp" <discuss AT lists.opennicproject.org> wrote:

> In a project of a size like this you're pretty much
> responsible for the entire infrastructure whether someone
> else built it or not, so I'm referring to the key members
> of OpenNIC currently running the core infrastructure like
> the T0, mailing list and wikis. Sorry didn't think this
> was a Yankee White secret but..
> 
> Looks like Jonah understands the issue well and would be
> up to maintain it.
> 
> -gp
> 
> On 2017-02-19 07:15, vv AT cgs.pw wrote:
> > Not sure what site admins you refer to. The
> > problem we've had is there haven't been any.
> > Perhaps you know something the rest of us don't,
> > in which case please let us know who they are.
> > 
> > ~ Ole
> > 
> > 
> > On Sun, 19 Feb 2017 05:34:28 +0000
> > "gp" <discuss AT lists.opennicproject.org> wrote:
> >   
> >> Hello,
> >> 
> >> Having to install ruby to build a site makes me lay
> >> down rivers of tears, however I do have to regularly
> >> spend very little effort to find security issues in
> >> OpenNIC code, so I do agree with moving any of our
> >> custom code to static or better written stuff. I
> >> didn't inspect the site (sorry), but overall I support
> >> the move. Workflow would be better and more
> >> transparent, and easier than pestering people over
> >> email or irc.
> >> 
> >> Regarding your random jab at the site admins, no
> >> they're not clueless, and yes they are busy. no need
> >> for any of that condescending stuff (and im not even
> >> one of them)
> >> 
> >> +1 from me.
> >> 
> >> -gp
> >> 
> >> On 2017-02-19 00:56, Jonah Aragon wrote:  
> >> > Hi!
> >> >
> >> > I've been working on a new design and system for the
> >> > homepage, and I wanted to gather some opinions on
> >> > what works, what doesn't, and what you think about
> >> > replacing our current WordPress site (at
> >> > https://www.opennicproject.org/). You can check out
> >> > my design at
> >> > https://jonaharagon.github.io/opennic.org/.
> >> >
> >> > Some background:
> >> >
> >> > The WordPress site currently host a simple homepage,
> >> > a basic membership system (essentially providing a
> >> > profile frontend for the LDAP system), and a blog
> >> > that's rarely been used. WordPress creates a lot of
> >> > load on the servers and is just in general bloated.
> >> > MySQL databases, dynamically generated pages, none of
> >> > this is needed for our homepage, especially if we try
> >> > to move everything to the wiki. In addition, the
> >> > website (mainly the aforementioned login system) is
> >> > susceptible to XSS attacks, among other
> >> > vulnerabilities. Coupled with the massive amount of
> >> > security holes that just appear to show up in
> >> > WordPress all the time
> >> > (https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-2337/product_id-4096/),
> >> > I'm honestly surprised we haven't migrated to
> >> > anything else already.
> >> >
> >> > My site (code at
> >> > https://github.com/JonahAragon/opennic.org) is
> >> > complete static HTML (which is compiled with Jekyll)
> >> > homepage. It includes all the important features of
> >> > our current site, even the closest servers
> >> > information, with a cleaner, simpler design and
> >> > setup. It places more emphasis on our top level
> >> > domains, and it still includes a blogging system for
> >> > future Press Releases and updates (which I think we
> >> > should utilize more):
> >> > https://jonaharagon.github.io/opennic.org/press/.
> >> >
> >> > Because it's a static site, the security risks are
> >> > nonexistent and it can be hosted anywhere. If this
> >> > were to gather relatively good opinions from all of
> >> > you, I'd push it to our organization at
> >> > https://github.com/OpenNIC so anybody would be able
> >> > to edit it (via Pull Requests). Ideally we could
> >> > setup a system to automatically pull (from GitHub)
> >> > and build the site on our webservers behind some
> >> > lightweight server like Nginx. That way we'd be able
> >> > to keep the existing servers and TLS functionality
> >> > (which GH Pages does not support with custom
> >> > domains) everything is just more open, compared with
> >> > random WordPress administrators who as far as I can
> >> > gather fall between the "not having enough time to
> >> > update the site" and the "have no idea how to
> >> > operate WordPress" categories.
> >> >
> >> > Anyways, this was a really long email about a really
> >> > simple topic. Sorry about that.
> >> >
> >> > Hopefully all of you are on board,
> >> >
> >> > Jonah
> >> >
> >> > P.S. Also this would be the perfect time to switch to
> >> > our opennic.org [1] domain for the homepage and add
> >> > some 301 redirects when we move, that'll just look
> >> > nicer in general (and there'd be no need to move all
> >> > the sites to that domain, at least not right away).
> >> >
> >> > Links:
> >> > ------
> >> > [1] http://opennic.org
> >> >
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