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[Jonah Aragon <jonaharagon AT gmail.com>]

I know, I was just suggesting an alternative because I personally don't think we should drop .libre for a replacement so fast, it's a good TLD.

Jonah

On Jun 10, 2017 2:42 PM, "Daniel Quintiliani" <danq AT runbox.com> wrote:

Everyone keeps misunderstanding me. I want to change the TLD, not the charter.

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-Dan Q


On Sat, 10 Jun 2017 16:17:38 +0200, Amunak <amunak AT amunak.net> wrote:

> I like this choice also because it's very unlikely that someone might
> register it with ICANN, as it's not really a word or anything.
>
>
> Dne 10.06.2017 v 7:03 kevin napsal(a):
> > .faif
> >
> > <free as in freedom>
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 2017-06-09 at 22:31 -0400, Daniel Quintiliani wrote:
> >> Originally it was about the choice of the TLD .libre as a replacement for a noncommercial-only .free, when something like .noncom or .noncomm would be better suited since "libre" implies both commercial and noncommercial use.
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> -Dan Q
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, 9 Jun 2017 19:28:24 -0700, <vv AT cgs.pw> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I think the discussion was not about the word,
> >>> nor choice thereof, but about the appropriateness
> >>> of the charter.
> >>>
> >>> ~ Ole
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, 09 Jun 2017 22:20:21 -0400 (EDT)
> >>> "Daniel Quintiliani" <danq AT runbox.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> "libre vs gratis" is used in the free software movement,
> >>>> as the word "free" in English means both "free as in
> >>>> freedom" (libre) and "free of charge" (gratis).
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>>
> >>>> -Dan Q
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, 09 Jun 2017 19:14:14 -0700, rhargrave
> >>>> <roman AT hargrave.info> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I'm not up to speed on the .free replacement situation,
> >>>>> but has anyone suggested the charter of an entirely
> >>>>> novel domain deriving its name from the equivalent to
> >>>>> 'free' in another language (like .libre)? Perhaps
> >>>>> choosing a word from a conlang like Esperanto would
> >>>>> also eliminate disagreements based on locality. The
> >>>>> charter could be basically identical to .free.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ---- On Fri, 09 Jun 2017 19:03:21 -0700 vv AT cgs.pw wrote
> >>>>> ----
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I think your points are good, and look forward to
> >>>>> some discussion about that. Commercial usage can
> >>>>> sometimes be a problem in some environments, but
> >>>>> I honestly don't think that's going to happen here.
> >>>>> In fact I think we should be so lucky as to have
> >>>>> commercial interest in our world. It might be good
> >>>>> for us.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> That said, the basic ideas of liberty and freedom
> >>>>> are not compatible with such harsh censorship as
> >>>>> espoused by the .libre charter. In fact I think it
> >>>>> is very wrong and certainly deceptive - I hope not
> >>>>> deliberately so.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Regards,
> >>>>> Ole Juul
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Fri, 09 Jun 2017 20:18:17 -0400 (EDT)
> >>>>> "Daniel Quintiliani" <danq AT runbox.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I really think we need to reopen the choice of
> >>>>>> the .libre domain to replace .free.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The reason being that the charter for .libre forbids
> >>>>>> commercial use while every use of .libre (FLOSS)
> >>>>>> means "free as in freedom" including the freedom for
> >>>>>> commercial use. Therefore .libre is
> >>>>>> misleading. .libre is closer to .oss than it is
> >>>>>> to .free.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> During the vote I suggested merging into .null, but
> >>>>>> it was during the voting thread, there was no
> >>>>>> discussion, and my vote to merge into .null wound up
> >>>>>> being the only vote to do so. Also, .null is intended
> >>>>>> for individuals, not organizations, so that was a bad
> >>>>>> idea anyway.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> While it's still soon enough, I think we should
> >>>>>> cancel the .libre domains and switch them to
> >>>>>> something like:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> .noncom
> >>>>>> .noncomm
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> or the like.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I propose .noncom
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Does anyone agree with me on .libre being a bad idea,
> >>>>>> and that we should rename it ASAP?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -Dan Q
> >>>>>
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