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["Daniel Quintiliani" <danq AT runbox.com>]

What's the point of allowing or disallowing commercial use?

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-Dan Q

On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 19:38:20 +0000, Al Beano <albino AT autistici.org> wrote:

> That's a good point. I agree there comes a point where commercial use 
> needs to be handled on a case-by-case basis, but I think the charter 
> should also include examples to give an idea of what would/would not be 
> acceptable.
> 
> I stand by using amateur radio as an example, as it's something which is 
> of interest to most real life 'cyberpunks', but not to the general 
> public. There will inevitably be some overlap betweeen .cyb and .geek 
> because most cyberpunks/cyberpunk enthusiasts are also geeks, but the 
> ethos and community surrounding the two TLDs will be very different.
> 
> The example of anime DVDs can be removed altogether.
> 
> albino
> 
> On 2017-07-12 19:25, Famicoman wrote:
> > I understand where you are coming from regarding commercial use of
> > sites, but the argument could be made that something like anime DVD
> > sales could be just as mainstream as pre-built computers. A computer
> > could be just as cyberpunk as an Akira DVD, but on the other hand a
> > random person off the street might really like Spirited Away or
> > something even if they don't know much about the genre.
> > 
> > Maybe say commercial sites could be allowed for cyberpunk goods, under
> > the discretion of .cyb administrators on a case-by-case basis as
> > needed? Just blanketing anime or amateur radio could be general enough
> > for a .geek site.
> > 
> > On Jul 12, 2017 2:58 PM, "Al Beano" <albino AT autistici.org> wrote:
> > 
> >> Hello,
> >> 
> >> We would like to propose a new TLD (.cyb) for OpenNIC:
> >> 
> >> .cyb TLD
> >> 
> >> ===========
> >> + CHARTER +
> >> ===========
> >> 
> >> Description
> >> - - - - - -
> >> 
> >> .cyb is a space for all things cyberpunk, including the
> >> 'underground' use of technology in the real world. This includes
> >> cyberpunk fiction, computers, and any kind of homebrew/hobbyist
> >> technology.
> >> 
> >> .cyb is no ordinary TLD. We strive to bring TLDs to a community
> >> level by automating the registration process, and providing services
> >> such as free DNS/mail/XMPP/web hosting to all holders of .cyb
> >> domains.
> >> 
> >> We are also going to implement an opt-in mailing list which would
> >> permit notifications of domain registrations to be sent out to all
> >> those interested. This will, of course, be optional on both sides
> >> (opt-in to notify, opt-in to receive).
> >> 
> >> Furthermore, we will provide a certificate authority and issue each
> >> domain owner with a corresponding certificate. Alternative names and
> >> wildcards can also be requested.
> >> 
> >> Registration
> >> - - - - - -
> >> 
> >> Registration of .cyb domains is free of charge. Any person can
> >> register as many .cyb domains as they wish, providing they have a
> >> legitimate use for them (as described within this charter).
> >> 
> >> In general, usage should be non-commercial (although this
> >> requirement is mostly subjective and might require a vote from the
> >> membership). As a guide, .cyb domains used for commercial purposes
> >> should not aim to appeal to the general public. For example, a
> >> website selling amateur radio equipment or anime DVDs would be
> >> acceptable, but one selling pre-built computers would not.
> >> 
> >> Registrations are offered on a first-come first-served basis, and
> >> last one year before they must be renewed.
> >> 
> >> We aim to provide a web interface for managing and registering
> >> domains, however, early users of the TLD may register domains by
> >> email.
> >> 
> >> Policies
> >> - - - -
> >> 
> >> The following activities are prohibited, and will result in
> >> revocation of the offending domain(s):
> >> * Domain squatting
> >> * Distribution of child pornography
> >> * Distribution of spam/malware
> >> * Unauthorised access of other computer systems
> >> 
> >> Domains will be revoked if the .cyb administration or membership
> >> deems them to be in violation of this policy. Please report any
> >> violating domains to the abuse email address (listed in the
> >> 'Contacts') section of this charter.
> >> 
> >> Voting
> >> - - -
> >> 
> >> Members (anyone who holds a .cyb domain and is a member of OpenNIC)
> >> are eligible to call for, and vote on, motions relating to the
> >> administration of the domain. Motions will be passed by a majority
> >> of votes.
> >> 
> >> Contacts
> >> - - - -
> >> 
> >> * DNS master - hostmaster AT opennic.cyb
> >> * Abuse -  abuse AT opennic.cyb
> >> * Webmaster - webmaster AT opennic.cyb
> >> 
> >> * Pre-release contacts - albino AT autistici.org, sy AT zm.is
> >> 
> >> ========================
> >> 
> >> Thanks for reading this proposal, and we welcome any feedback and
> >> suggestions you might have.
> >> 
> >> Al Beano <albino AT autistici.org>
> >> sy <sy AT zm.is>
> >> 
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