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["Daniel Quintiliani" <danq AT runbox.com>]

"By actor" is good, and all three examples I gave were by actor.

You're right, it's best to only limit it to literally identical text, rather 
than try and cover subject matter in general. This way "let's do the .front 
vote again" or "let's vote on proposals B and D [exactly as they are written] 
again" would be covered by this policy while "I'll make a new proposal with a 
revised B and D" would not.

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-Dan Q

On Wed, 11 Jul 2018 13:02:01 -0500, Jonah Aragon <jonah AT triplebit.net> wrote:

> Just some thoughts I had... 
> 
> What differentiates proposals? Is it by idea? If I hate an idea could I 
> start a vote on it with some outlandish conclusion people would be forced 
> to vote “no” on, and now nobody can propose anything like it for a year? 
> For example, I could start a vote saying that if a proposal fails, nobody 
> can start another one for 1000 years. Once everybody says no, is a “1 year 
> wait before re-voting” proposal disallowed because it’s a different take on 
> the same idea?
> 
> Is it by actor? What’s stopping me from giving my failed proposal plus a 
> few modifications to a buddy of mine to propose?
> 
> Is it some combination of the two that determines uniqueness? If so, who’s 
> the judge of that? This could be used as a heavy handed tool to prevent 
> proposals by a single person or across a very wide scope of ideas, because 
> they’re “too similar.”
> 
> When we make proposals it’s important to codify things exactly, in my 
> opinion. Sure, maybe a “reasonable judgement”-based idea like this might 
> work within our current community, but we should consider new users or a 
> potential rapid growth of our community that could destabilize an 
> organization like ours with “policies” like this. 
> 
> Jonah
> 
> > On Jul 9, 2018, at 1:28 PM, Daniel Quintiliani <danq AT runbox.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > There has been a problem of people trying to hold new votes too recently 
> > after their proposals lose. This includes Jonah's proposals to replace 
> > IRC with Discord and Sympa with Discourse, and someone who lost I think 
> > the .front TLD, and I did so myself with the .free/.libre thing.
> > 
> > I propose there be a one year (365 day) waiting period before anyone can 
> > bring proposals back up for a new vote.
> > 
> > What do you think?
> > 
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> > 
> > -Dan Q
> > 
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