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[Alex Hanselka <alex AT opennicproject.org>]

You can see the new website at http://new.opennic.glue.  It is not
public yet as you may have imagined as we are working on it. It will go
live soon.

Secondly, this all started from you mentioning SSL. In a perfect world,
yes, we would all have fantastic and commercial or at least trusted
certs. However, this is not a perfect world. Most if not ALL commercial
SSL certs (even the cheap ones) wouldn't dream of issuing a cert for an
OpenNIC DNS name. Thus, we support those who will support us, like
CACert. Please, if you do find a commercial or trusted provider that
will issue a cert for a OpenNIC DNS name, PLEASE tell me. I would love
to include that in many docs and as I said, you help us and we help you.
We could drive at least some business to them. :)

Please keep in mind, that we are all too used to people coming here and
being angry and telling us why we are wrong so we are a little jumpy at
new people who come in, guns blazing.  Especially because, more times
than not, they disappear forever after a short time.  I, for one, value
your feedback and am definitely taking it into account.  So please,
stick around and we will settle down a bit.  We do our best with OpenNIC
but it IS still a volunteer project.  While efforts are underway to
perhaps improve ourselves, we will be a volunteer project for the
foreseeable future and because of that, it is often hard or time
concentrate our efforts or make everything happen we want. We have
limited time and resources.

In any case, welcome to OpenNIC and again, please feel free to stick
around and hang out with us. Get to know us and everything will be great
in the end :)

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Alex Hanselka
OpenNIC Listmaster and other various things >.>
alex AT opennicproject.org

On 5/30/2012 6:57 PM, Jamyn Shanley wrote:
> On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 6:52 PM, Julian DeMarchi
> <julian AT jdcomputers.com.au> wrote:
>> On 05/31/2012 09:47 AM, Jamyn Shanley wrote:
>>> Really? So submitting 3-4 bug reports in just the last few hours, plus
>>> offering to spend my time on something IF the end goal is broader
>>> adoption is "all talk"? I'm amused.
>> Indeed it is. The bug reports you have mentioned are being fixed in the
>> new website.
> The new website isn't live. I filed reports on bugs with the existing
> site. You know - the one that every single visitor sees right now.
> Speaking of "all talk", it seems to fit the description of the "new
> website" quite well.
>
>> The end goal is broader adoption and the new website and services will
>> assist with this.
> Great. It doesn't invalidate any existing bug or issue that has been
> reported until it's live, as the issues exist right now.
>
>> I'm even more amused, we get your types popping up every so often making
>> alot of noise, then when the offer to acually help is presented, all
>> sorts of excuses are presented. So yes, you are all talk until proved
>> otherwise.
> Perhaps people lose interest in helping because when they raise
> issues, they are rebuffed.
> Would you spend your time helping someone that does not show any
> interest in any issues raised?
>
>> So this could make the bug reports null and void, and you
>> wouldn't know as no help has been offered.
> Nobody asked me to help with anything - I simply started reporting
> issues as I noticed them. And had someone simply said "great, thanks
> for the reports - do you want to help with xyz?" I would have said
> yes.
>
> Your reaction to my reports is somewhat agressive. Do you enjoy
> working with people like that?
>
>
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