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["John Kozlowski \(ShofarDomain.com\)" <John.Kozlowski AT ShofarDomain.com>]

While I respect the thoughts about a non-profit, I urge rejection.  The
church in the United States is the primary example.  A carrot was offered in
the 50s by the then Senator, and later President, Lyndon Johnson to have
churches incorporate.  The goal was to mussel them and it was very
successful.  In 2014 most US churches are effectively entertainment and
marketing organizations.  Their primary goal is to get more members, but
then will not contend from the Scripture they are supposedly based on if it
has the hint of threat to the corporate status.

Apply that to history to OpenNIC.  Do you want to be free, without the
oversight of a national body that can offer limits on what you do?  Or do
you want to be like ICANN and be a corporate entity?  Do you want to
voluntarily put your hand out to be potentially cut off if you do the wrong
thing?  Do you want to give ICANN perhaps a legal means to impact or
shutdown OpenNIC?  Right now members can be impacted, but there is no single
entity to bring down.

Whereas there are clearly difference among the participants in OpenNIC, this
must be seen as a strength.  Incorporating could bring a unity to the group,
but I suggest that would also make it as impotent as the American Church.  I
don't think incorporation outside of the US will bring any relief to this.

As an Anarco-Christian, I will gladly argue the case for Christ in another
venue.  It is hard to do so in an American Church.  In the same way, I will
argue here that OpenNIC is an unorganized group of DIFFERING people with a
SIMILAR but not identical purposes.  OpenNIC is stronger this way and I
suggest it stay this way.  Yes there are issues, weaknesses, and cash
problems that keep the impact limited today.  However, I contend that
incorporation is the death knell of OpenNIC.

Respectfully,

John Kozlowski

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Subject: Re: [opennic-discuss] Proposal: Establishment of an OpenNIC
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On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 04:38:07PM -0600, Quinn Wood wrote:
> If creating a working group, or any kind of bureaucracy, they need to do
the work.

Yes, but they also must have the mandate to make the decisions needed to
carry out the task.

  --Brian