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[Riley Baird <riley AT openmailbox.org>]

I'm not sure that such a nation is possible, without land. Otherwise,
everyone would just create their own country and declare that they are
no longer bound by their physical nation's laws. Or am I misreading you?

On 29/12/14 10:22, Max Bellasys wrote:
> Although I'm new to both this group and these discussions I joined OpenNIC 
> and started participating in these discussions because I am interested in 
> Founding a new Nation.
> 
> I submit this statement for consideration not because I actually wanted 
> help doing this, but because it seems appropriate to suggest based on the 
> current discussion.
> The Nation I propose is landless and exists as an entity accessed via the 
> internet. It is meant and positioned as a true cyber-nation, and one of its 
> chief features is the ability to register businesses and offer dual 
> citizenships. This is in response to taxation, which would exist but at a 
> level similar to the way Bitcoin operates- functional toward sustained 
> financial health but nominal in nature.
> 
> Because of the broad possible interpretation of my statement and the way it 
> could sound off the rails as a proposed solution, as well as a solution 
> that's potentially too long on implementation to achieve certain short term 
> goals, I will assert that it is achievable leveraging the existing 
> infrastructure at OpenNIC.
> 
> The ideas I have to charter an entire nation follow a fairly simple model 
> and I have already created software that is intended to provide 
> infrastructure for such an undertaking. Otherwise, this would be a 
> half-baked dream rather than what I call a viable solution.
> 
> With crypto currency and the right type of distributed network- as well as 
> "alternative" DNS, such an idea could work considering that I modeled it on 
> a lean startup whose inception offers revenue generating methods 
> immediately, and I believe that a viable offering of "an alternative to 
> existing national business registries with their taxation models" is 
> attractive at this stage of global economy.
> 
> Your thoughts?
> 
> ~Max Bellasys
> 
> On Dec 28, 2014, at 12:32 PM, John Kozlowski (ShofarDomain.com) 
> <John.Kozlowski AT ShofarDomain.com> wrote:
> 
>> I’m sorry, but I’m trying to understand what you mean.  Are you suggesting 
>> merging with the other non-ICANN entities or with all of them?
>>
>> Please remember that it was made clear at WCIT 2012 in Dubai that a UN 
>> takeover of the Internet is brewing and control of the DNS via ICANN is 
>> desired.  This would allow a central authority to dictate what the 
>> Internet can be used for.  It is my hope OpenNIC will stand against this.
>>
>> As for me, fragmentation is good.  Centralization is the end of freedom.  
>> Even a duopoly is centralization.
>>
>> Respectfully,
>>
>> John Kozlowski
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: discuss-request AT lists.opennicproject.org 
>> [mailto:discuss-request AT lists.opennicproject.org] On Behalf Of Riley Baird
>> Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2014 2:22 PM
>> To: discuss AT lists.opennicproject.org
>> Subject: Re: [opennic-discuss] Proposal: Establishment of an OpenNIC 
>> foundation using OpenNIC funds
>>
>>> For my part I desire to product a resolver that works with OpenNIC, 
>>> ICANN, INAIC, Name.Space, Unifiedroot, etc. and is not dependent on a 
>>> single root.  I had a rootless resolver and have withdrawn it as it is 
>>> being updated, but it should reappear.  This is my attempt at a technical 
>>> response to a political issue.  I do not need to be the only one doing so 
>>> and I welcome others to do the same or similar.  We don’t need just one 
>>> way to do things.
>>
>> Apologies for taking this off-topic, but I think that it would be a good 
>> idea to see if OpenNIC could attempt to do a merger with these other 
>> roots. There's no point in unnecessary fragmentation.
>>
>>
>>
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