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[M D B <info AT bellasys.com>]

No you don't misread me, and a nation without land is possible, the same as 
crypto-currency is possible without a central bank authority. 

One thing absolutely required is recognition of its TLD, in a perfect world 
universally so (ICANN + Non-ICANN) but acceptably so otherwise (Non-ICANN).

Regardless of the immediacy of the solution required to meet the current 
scope of needs expressed in this thread, OpenNIC has the ingredients 
necessary to begin such an undertaking. With enough interest, this could 
become a goal running in parallel to other more quickly achievable ends.

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> On Dec 28, 2014, at 3:27 PM, Riley Baird <riley AT openmailbox.org> wrote:
> 
> I'm not sure that such a nation is possible, without land. Otherwise,
> everyone would just create their own country and declare that they are
> no longer bound by their physical nation's laws. Or am I misreading you?
> 
>> On 29/12/14 10:22, Max Bellasys wrote:
>> Although I'm new to both this group and these discussions I joined OpenNIC 
>> and started participating in these discussions because I am interested in 
>> Founding a new Nation.
>> 
>> I submit this statement for consideration not because I actually wanted 
>> help doing this, but because it seems appropriate to suggest based on the 
>> current discussion.
>> The Nation I propose is landless and exists as an entity accessed via the 
>> internet. It is meant and positioned as a true cyber-nation, and one of 
>> its chief features is the ability to register businesses and offer dual 
>> citizenships. This is in response to taxation, which would exist but at a 
>> level similar to the way Bitcoin operates- functional toward sustained 
>> financial health but nominal in nature.
>> 
>> Because of the broad possible interpretation of my statement and the way 
>> it could sound off the rails as a proposed solution, as well as a solution 
>> that's potentially too long on implementation to achieve certain short 
>> term goals, I will assert that it is achievable leveraging the existing 
>> infrastructure at OpenNIC.
>> 
>> The ideas I have to charter an entire nation follow a fairly simple model 
>> and I have already created software that is intended to provide 
>> infrastructure for such an undertaking. Otherwise, this would be a 
>> half-baked dream rather than what I call a viable solution.
>> 
>> With crypto currency and the right type of distributed network- as well as 
>> "alternative" DNS, such an idea could work considering that I modeled it 
>> on a lean startup whose inception offers revenue generating methods 
>> immediately, and I believe that a viable offering of "an alternative to 
>> existing national business registries with their taxation models" is 
>> attractive at this stage of global economy.
>> 
>> Your thoughts?
>> 
>> ~Max Bellasys
>> 
>>> On Dec 28, 2014, at 12:32 PM, John Kozlowski (ShofarDomain.com) 
>>> <John.Kozlowski AT ShofarDomain.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’m sorry, but I’m trying to understand what you mean.  Are you 
>>> suggesting merging with the other non-ICANN entities or with all of them?
>>> 
>>> Please remember that it was made clear at WCIT 2012 in Dubai that a UN 
>>> takeover of the Internet is brewing and control of the DNS via ICANN is 
>>> desired.  This would allow a central authority to dictate what the 
>>> Internet can be used for.  It is my hope OpenNIC will stand against this.
>>> 
>>> As for me, fragmentation is good.  Centralization is the end of freedom.  
>>> Even a duopoly is centralization.
>>> 
>>> Respectfully,
>>> 
>>> John Kozlowski
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: discuss-request AT lists.opennicproject.org 
>>> [mailto:discuss-request AT lists.opennicproject.org] On Behalf Of Riley Baird
>>> Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2014 2:22 PM
>>> To: discuss AT lists.opennicproject.org
>>> Subject: Re: [opennic-discuss] Proposal: Establishment of an OpenNIC 
>>> foundation using OpenNIC funds
>>> 
>>>> For my part I desire to product a resolver that works with OpenNIC, 
>>>> ICANN, INAIC, Name.Space, Unifiedroot, etc. and is not dependent on a 
>>>> single root.  I had a rootless resolver and have withdrawn it as it is 
>>>> being updated, but it should reappear.  This is my attempt at a 
>>>> technical response to a political issue.  I do not need to be the only 
>>>> one doing so and I welcome others to do the same or similar.  We don’t 
>>>> need just one way to do things.
>>> 
>>> Apologies for taking this off-topic, but I think that it would be a good 
>>> idea to see if OpenNIC could attempt to do a merger with these other 
>>> roots. There's no point in unnecessary fragmentation.
>>> 
>>> 
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