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  • From: Christopher <weblionx AT gmail.com>
  • To: discuss AT lists.opennicproject.org
  • Subject: Re: [opennic-discuss] letter writing. was Re: [opennic-discuss] Call for vote on .free issues
  • Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2016 23:27:12 -0500

The closest I can find to a contact so far is at their registrar page
( https://www.amazonregistry.com/page/faq#faq-registrar ->
contactamazonregistry AT amazon.com ). ICANN posted an agreement
transferring the TLD registration from Amazon EU to Amazon Registry
Services, Inc., posted at
https://www.icann.org/resources/agreement/free-2015-12-10-en (that
being the newest post on their site regarding .free that I can find.)

On Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 9:40 PM, JC <jc AT motorsports-x.com> wrote:
> Who is they? Amazon is the owner. Have they made comment?
>
> On Dec 23, 2016 8:33 PM, <vv AT cgs.pw> wrote:
>>
>> They have made it perfectly clear that they
>> don't acknowledge alts. Might as well go
>> straight to EFF. Perhaps they will offer some
>> words of condolence. :)
>>
>> ~ Ole
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 20:18:23 -0500
>> Theo B <me AT theos.space> wrote:
>>
>> > I think it's worth a shot. If they even acknowledged us
>> > it would be a start, and even if they say "No", we may be
>> > able to go to the EFF and ask for help. Even if it
>> > doesn't go anywhere, it's still worth trying.
>> >
>> > -Theo
>> >
>> > On Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 7:38 PM, Jonah Aragon
>> > <jonaharagon AT gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > On Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 2:58 PM kevin
>> > > <krattai AT gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> There is no single person who "runs" openNIC, so
>> > >> anyone who participates is welcome to step up and
>> > >> start moving on this, conferring with the list before
>> > >> anything pushed out, as usual.
>> > >
>> > > We do have working groups and organizations for these
>> > > purposes though. Public Relations, which I am heading
>> > > currently,
>> > > ( http://wiki.opennicproject.org/PublicRelationsWG) for
>> > > example would probably organize something like this if
>> > > the community wanted to send a letter. At the very
>> > > least so Amazon/whoever didn't receive an email from
>> > > some seemingly random person claiming to represent the
>> > > project.
>> > >
>> > > Anyways, regarding .free specifically we would contact
>> > > Amazon: they own ("own") the ICANN version of .free so
>> > > any specific demands (i.e. asking for our domains to be
>> > > transferred over) would have to be handled by them,
>> > > ICANN certainly couldn't do anything about that.
>> > >
>> > > If we wanted to contact ICANN it would be more about
>> > > reserving our TLDs for the future.
>> > >
>> > > I personally do not think we should write a letter of
>> > > any kind. Jeff Taylor said (in the original thread) it
>> > > best:
>> > >
>> > > "No, ICANN is not watching us. If we had thousands of
>> > > users who made a big stink on social media, we might
>> > > get upgraded to a "nuisance""
>> > >
>> > > We've lost TLDs to ICANN before and nothing has changed
>> > > in the meantime.
>> > >
>> > > I would consider the whole idea a success if they even
>> > > READ any letter we sent them, but I have my doubts
>> > > against that. It's a useless cause that will either go
>> > > unheard or uncared about. We have no leverage, so to
>> > > speak.
>> > >
>> > > I'd like to hear what other people think about the
>> > > letter, but personally I believe it's ridiculous.
>> > >
>> > > Jonah
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
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