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[<vv AT cgs.pw>]

If they actually answer a letter from us,
and they might well, then I think it will
be a real classic well worth posting on
our wiki for both education and amusement.

~ Ole


On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 23:27:12 -0500
Christopher <weblionx AT gmail.com> wrote:

> The closest I can find to a contact so far is at their
> registrar page
> ( https://www.amazonregistry.com/page/faq#faq-registrar
> -> contactamazonregistry AT amazon.com ). ICANN posted an
> agreement transferring the TLD registration from Amazon
> EU to Amazon Registry Services, Inc., posted at
> https://www.icann.org/resources/agreement/free-2015-12-10-en
> (that being the newest post on their site regarding .free
> that I can find.)
> 
> On Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 9:40 PM, JC
> <jc AT motorsports-x.com> wrote:
> > Who is they?     Amazon is the owner.  Have they made
> > comment?
> >
> > On Dec 23, 2016 8:33 PM, <vv AT cgs.pw> wrote:  
> >>
> >> They have made it perfectly clear that they
> >> don't acknowledge alts. Might as well go
> >> straight to EFF. Perhaps they will offer some
> >> words of condolence. :)
> >>
> >> ~ Ole
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 20:18:23 -0500
> >> Theo B <me AT theos.space> wrote:
> >>  
> >> > I think it's worth a shot. If they even acknowledged
> >> > us it would be a start, and even if they say "No",
> >> > we may be able to go to the EFF and ask for help.
> >> > Even if it doesn't go anywhere, it's still worth
> >> > trying.
> >> >
> >> > -Theo
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 7:38 PM, Jonah Aragon
> >> > <jonaharagon AT gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >  
> >> > > On Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 2:58 PM kevin
> >> > > <krattai AT gmail.com> wrote:  
> >> > >> There is no single person who "runs" openNIC, so
> >> > >> anyone who participates is welcome to step up and
> >> > >> start moving on this, conferring with the list
> >> > >> before anything pushed out, as usual.  
> >> > >
> >> > > We do have working groups and organizations for
> >> > > these purposes though. Public Relations, which I
> >> > > am heading currently,
> >> > > ( http://wiki.opennicproject.org/PublicRelationsWG)
> >> > > for example would probably organize something like
> >> > > this if the community wanted to send a letter. At
> >> > > the very least so Amazon/whoever didn't receive an
> >> > > email from some seemingly random person claiming
> >> > > to represent the project.
> >> > >
> >> > > Anyways, regarding .free specifically we would
> >> > > contact Amazon: they own ("own") the ICANN version
> >> > > of .free so any specific demands (i.e. asking for
> >> > > our domains to be transferred over) would have to
> >> > > be handled by them, ICANN certainly couldn't do
> >> > > anything about that.
> >> > >
> >> > > If we wanted to contact ICANN it would be more
> >> > > about reserving our TLDs for the future.
> >> > >
> >> > > I personally do not think we should write a letter
> >> > > of any kind. Jeff Taylor said (in the original
> >> > > thread) it best:
> >> > >
> >> > > "No, ICANN is not watching us.  If we had
> >> > > thousands of users who made a big stink on social
> >> > > media, we might get upgraded to a "nuisance""
> >> > >
> >> > > We've lost TLDs to ICANN before and nothing has
> >> > > changed in the meantime.
> >> > >
> >> > > I would consider the whole idea a success if they
> >> > > even READ any letter we sent them, but I have my
> >> > > doubts against that. It's a useless cause that
> >> > > will either go unheard or uncared about. We have
> >> > > no leverage, so to speak.
> >> > >
> >> > > I'd like to hear what other people think about the
> >> > > letter, but personally I believe it's ridiculous.
> >> > >
> >> > > Jonah
> >> > >
> >> > >
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