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["Daniel Quintiliani" <danq AT runbox.com>]

Why doesn't anyone want to write letters to the EFF instead?

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-Dan Q


On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 22:05:55 -0800, <vv AT cgs.pw> wrote:

> If they actually answer a letter from us,
> and they might well, then I think it will
> be a real classic well worth posting on
> our wiki for both education and amusement.
> 
> ~ Ole
> 
> 
> On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 23:27:12 -0500
> Christopher <weblionx AT gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > The closest I can find to a contact so far is at their
> > registrar page
> > ( https://www.amazonregistry.com/page/faq#faq-registrar
> > -> contactamazonregistry AT amazon.com ). ICANN posted an
> > agreement transferring the TLD registration from Amazon
> > EU to Amazon Registry Services, Inc., posted at
> > https://www.icann.org/resources/agreement/free-2015-12-10-en
> > (that being the newest post on their site regarding .free
> > that I can find.)
> > 
> > On Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 9:40 PM, JC
> > <jc AT motorsports-x.com> wrote:
> > > Who is they?     Amazon is the owner.  Have they made
> > > comment?
> > >
> > > On Dec 23, 2016 8:33 PM, <vv AT cgs.pw> wrote:  
> > >>
> > >> They have made it perfectly clear that they
> > >> don't acknowledge alts. Might as well go
> > >> straight to EFF. Perhaps they will offer some
> > >> words of condolence. :)
> > >>
> > >> ~ Ole
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 20:18:23 -0500
> > >> Theo B <me AT theos.space> wrote:
> > >>  
> > >> > I think it's worth a shot. If they even acknowledged
> > >> > us it would be a start, and even if they say "No",
> > >> > we may be able to go to the EFF and ask for help.
> > >> > Even if it doesn't go anywhere, it's still worth
> > >> > trying.
> > >> >
> > >> > -Theo
> > >> >
> > >> > On Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 7:38 PM, Jonah Aragon
> > >> > <jonaharagon AT gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >  
> > >> > > On Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 2:58 PM kevin
> > >> > > <krattai AT gmail.com> wrote:  
> > >> > >> There is no single person who "runs" openNIC, so
> > >> > >> anyone who participates is welcome to step up and
> > >> > >> start moving on this, conferring with the list
> > >> > >> before anything pushed out, as usual.  
> > >> > >
> > >> > > We do have working groups and organizations for
> > >> > > these purposes though. Public Relations, which I
> > >> > > am heading currently,
> > >> > > ( http://wiki.opennicproject.org/PublicRelationsWG)
> > >> > > for example would probably organize something like
> > >> > > this if the community wanted to send a letter. At
> > >> > > the very least so Amazon/whoever didn't receive an
> > >> > > email from some seemingly random person claiming
> > >> > > to represent the project.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Anyways, regarding .free specifically we would
> > >> > > contact Amazon: they own ("own") the ICANN version
> > >> > > of .free so any specific demands (i.e. asking for
> > >> > > our domains to be transferred over) would have to
> > >> > > be handled by them, ICANN certainly couldn't do
> > >> > > anything about that.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > If we wanted to contact ICANN it would be more
> > >> > > about reserving our TLDs for the future.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I personally do not think we should write a letter
> > >> > > of any kind. Jeff Taylor said (in the original
> > >> > > thread) it best:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > "No, ICANN is not watching us.  If we had
> > >> > > thousands of users who made a big stink on social
> > >> > > media, we might get upgraded to a "nuisance""
> > >> > >
> > >> > > We've lost TLDs to ICANN before and nothing has
> > >> > > changed in the meantime.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I would consider the whole idea a success if they
> > >> > > even READ any letter we sent them, but I have my
> > >> > > doubts against that. It's a useless cause that
> > >> > > will either go unheard or uncared about. We have
> > >> > > no leverage, so to speak.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I'd like to hear what other people think about the
> > >> > > letter, but personally I believe it's ridiculous.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Jonah
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
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