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They have made it perfectly clear that they
don't acknowledge alts. Might as well go
straight to EFF. Perhaps they will offer some
words of condolence. :)

~ Ole


On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 20:18:23 -0500
Theo B <me AT theos.space> wrote:

> I think it's worth a shot. If they even acknowledged us
> it would be a start, and even if they say "No", we may be
> able to go to the EFF and ask for help. Even if it
> doesn't go anywhere, it's still worth trying.
> 
> -Theo
> 
> On Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 7:38 PM, Jonah Aragon
> <jonaharagon AT gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 2:58 PM kevin
> > <krattai AT gmail.com> wrote: 
> >> There is no single person who "runs" openNIC, so
> >> anyone who participates is welcome to step up and
> >> start moving on this, conferring with the list before
> >> anything pushed out, as usual. 
> >
> > We do have working groups and organizations for these
> > purposes though. Public Relations, which I am heading
> > currently,
> > ( http://wiki.opennicproject.org/PublicRelationsWG) for
> > example would probably organize something like this if
> > the community wanted to send a letter. At the very
> > least so Amazon/whoever didn't receive an email from
> > some seemingly random person claiming to represent the
> > project.
> >
> > Anyways, regarding .free specifically we would contact
> > Amazon: they own ("own") the ICANN version of .free so
> > any specific demands (i.e. asking for our domains to be
> > transferred over) would have to be handled by them,
> > ICANN certainly couldn't do anything about that.
> >
> > If we wanted to contact ICANN it would be more about
> > reserving our TLDs for the future.
> >
> > I personally do not think we should write a letter of
> > any kind. Jeff Taylor said (in the original thread) it
> > best:
> >
> > "No, ICANN is not watching us.  If we had thousands of
> > users who made a big stink on social media, we might
> > get upgraded to a "nuisance""
> >
> > We've lost TLDs to ICANN before and nothing has changed
> > in the meantime.
> >
> > I would consider the whole idea a success if they even
> > READ any letter we sent them, but I have my doubts
> > against that. It's a useless cause that will either go
> > unheard or uncared about. We have no leverage, so to
> > speak.
> >
> > I'd like to hear what other people think about the
> > letter, but personally I believe it's ridiculous.
> >
> > Jonah
> >
> >
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