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[<vv AT cgs.pw>]

Christopher, you're quite right about an attack surface.
Forums are generally high maintenance. On many forums,
if someone isn't on the job every day (several
times) then the forum will get overrun. I've seen
forums completely useless after a couple of days, and
then there's a big cleanup job.

That said, if there is no signup on the forum, and
instead we use our OpenNIC credentials, then it is
quite possible that we can avoid most problems.
A simpler idea is that presumably this software can be
configured to require the first post to be moderated.
I do that on Wordpress sites and it just about solves
all spam issues.

~ Ole


On Thu, 20 Apr 2017 19:10:31 -0400
Christopher <weblionx AT gmail.com> wrote:

> If it maintains the mailing list functionality while also
> providing forums I don't care much one way or the other.
> Only thing that stands out to me is running a forum
> introduces a greater attack surface in terms of security
> vulnerabilities. Web forums seem to have a large patch
> rate to fix security flaws, so whoever maintains the
> forums needs to keep up to date on it, consistently.
> 
> On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 3:52 PM, Daniel Quintiliani
> <danq AT runbox.com> wrote:
> > It would be really annoying to have to manually log
> > into a Web site once a week and see if there is
> > something new to vote on. The mailing list brings
> > everything to your face. I've made my decision - I vote
> > No.
> >
> > --
> >
> > -Dan Q
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 20 Apr 2017 08:40:04 -0400, Maiyannah Bishop
> > <maiyannah.bishop AT postactiv.com> wrote: 
> >> I'm not really interested in doing this, but I don't
> >> think that people care to listen to me, so whatever, I
> >> guess I'll just unsubscribe. -mb
> >>
> >> On 2017-04-20 08:08, Jonah Aragon wrote:  
> >> > The idea is basically, we need a good community
> >> > discussion platform for newcomers (and current
> >> > members as well). Especially in the way of support,
> >> > the mailing list just isn't as inviting.
> >> >
> >> > I'd like to replace the mailing list completely
> >> > because I don't want to create fragmentation in the
> >> > community, we would have two similar systems running
> >> > with different purposes with different members and
> >> > nothing would get done. It's hard to get anything
> >> > done as it is with our current system, and I
> >> > definitely don't want to add to that issue (which in
> >> > my opinion, is OpenNIC's biggest flaw).
> >> >
> >> > Functionality hopefully shouldn't be too different
> >> > for die-hard mailing list users, but hopefully
> >> > people will switch.
> >> >
> >> > Discourse is proven in numerous communities. Ubuntu,
> >> > Let's Encrypt, Atom.io, Docker, and Imgur, to name a
> >> > few I can think of off the top of my head.
> >> >
> >> > We'll test it tonight and see if it works out.
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> >
> >> > Jonah
> >> >
> >> > On Apr 20, 2017 6:55 AM, "Zach Gibbens"
> >> > <zachgibbens AT zachgibbens.org
> >> > <mailto:zachgibbens AT zachgibbens.org>> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >     Still wondering what the goal here is?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >  
> >> >>     -------- Original Message --------
> >> >>     Subject: Re: [opennic-discuss] Moving to
> >> >> Discourse (Forum + Mailing List Replacement)
> >> >>     Local Time: April 20, 2017 11:46 AM
> >> >>     UTC Time: April 20, 2017 11:46 AM
> >> >>     From: deep.alexander AT gmail.com
> >> >> <mailto:deep.alexander AT gmail.com> To:
> >> >> discuss AT lists.opennicproject.org
> >> >> <mailto:discuss AT lists.opennicproject.org>
> >> >>
> >> >>     If you can get some of the skeptics to test it
> >> >> too that'd be great!
> >> >>
> >> >>     On 20 Apr 2017 1:31 p.m., "Jonah Aragon"
> >> >> <jonaharagon AT gmail.com
> >> >> <mailto:jonaharagon AT gmail.com>> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>         I'm going to set up a testing server for us
> >> >> tonight, I'll post a link then and maybe some of us
> >> >> can test how the mailing list functions exactly.
> >> >>
> >> >>         Jonah
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>         On Apr 20, 2017 3:44 AM, "Alex Nordlund"
> >> >>         <deep.alexander AT gmail.com
> >> >> <mailto:deep.alexander AT gmail.com>> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>             On 20 Apr 2017 10:04 a.m., <vv AT cgs.pw
> >> >> <mailto:vv AT cgs.pw>> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>                 Does it really
> >> >>                 work like an email list
> >> >> (reflector)? Would there be some differences?
> >> >>
> >> >>                 If not, then a move to Discourse
> >> >> would not be discernible by most people here.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>             Unfortunately there were some slight
> >> >> differences and I can't quite remember the details,
> >> >> but it'd be great if we could get some skeptics and
> >> >> give it a try. Given how popular the topic at hand
> >> >> is we really ought to document the issues into a
> >> >> wiki page.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
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