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  • From: <vv AT cgs.pw>
  • To: discuss AT lists.opennicproject.org
  • Subject: Re: [opennic-discuss] opennic project promotion
  • Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2017 17:59:31 -0700

I'm all for developing our TLDs and trying something
new, but since Discord does not manage DNS settings
I can't see how this would help. We're still up against
the same stumbling block.

Perhaps the non-public nature of such an arrangement
could be a draw for some though.

~ Ole


On Wed, 13 Sep 2017 00:56:31 +0100
me AT harukigrande.com wrote:

> With the recent activity that Discord has been bringing
> and the constant new Discord related services giving out
> custom urls instead of the randomised generic Discord.gg
> links, a .discord or similar TLD would bring quite a lot
> of new users if promoted right. I don't know about legal
> issues, but the other services have gotten away with
> having discord in their domain name.
>
> HARUKI N. GRANDE
> _https://harukigrande.pirate/_
>
> On 2017-09-12 21:15, vv AT cgs.pw wrote:
>
> > I've brought up our TLDs in the past, and
> > it seems like it's hard to get much interest
> > or action in this regard.
> >
> > There is probably a good reason for this.
> >
> > Content is not so easy to create and for
> > the most part people want it communicated
> > to as many people as possible so they use
> > ICANN domains instead of, or in addition to
> > ours. There seems to be little interest in
> > having content which is only OpenNIC accessible.
> >
> > The other major internet sphere where we see
> > this is with .onion sites. The difference
> > there is that there is a distinct reason for
> > using those, so it also seems like there is
> > much more uptake by content creators.
> >
> > What would be the reason for using an OpenNIC
> > domain exclusively for ones content? I am
> > asking because that is probably what we need
> > to answer if we want our TLDs used more.
> >
> > There is also another minor problem, and that
> > is that most of the people involved with
> > OpenNIC are primarily interested in spending
> > time developing the infrastructure and not
> > content. This is great because we need these
> > people to shoulder the whole program, but
> > that's not the kind of person who spends hours
> > writing web sites.
> >
> > As for games, I don't really know anything about
> > them and how their interests can help us much.
> > Do gamers have a practical use for TLDs that are
> > not reachable by the greater population? Perhaps
> > they do, I don't know.
> >
> > There may be other special interest groups who
> > would be interested in our TLDs for various
> > reasons. But I think that the difficulty of using
> > non ICANN names is not easy to overcome. Yes, a small
> > percentage of the population is indeed able to change
> > and maintain a domain name resolver address in their
> > OS, but most can't or simply are not interested is
> > such things. It seems to me that we will be limited
> > to a very small number of interested people unless
> > something changes in that regard. I note that even
> > something as large as The Daily Stormer has been
> > moving around various hosts and when they can't get
> > one, prefer to default to a .onion address.
> >
> > To sum up, I don't think we'll have much luck
> > promoting our TLDs except to the very few who do not
> > want to use ICANN or find a .onion unacceptable.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Ole
> >
> > On Tue, 12 Sep 2017 14:05:56 +0300
> > "Dmitry S. Nikolaev" <dn AT mega-net.ru> wrote:
> >
> > So, that`s all ? Anybody else ? More opinions ?
> > What next ? Forget about TLDs ?
> >
> > With best regards, Dmitry S. Nikolaev
> >
> > Moscow, Russia
> > phone: +7 (499) 678 8007 [ext. 6003]
> > fax: +7 (499) 678 8007 [ext. 7777]
> > www: http://www.mega-net.ru
> > mail: dnikolaev AT mega-net.ru
> > SIP URI: dnikolaev AT sip.mega-net.ru || dn AT sip.mega-net.ru
> >
> > On 09.09.2017 08:20, Dmitry S. Nikolaev wrote:
> > Hi.
> >
> > First of all thanks for the feedback.
> >
> > Christopher <weblionx AT gmail.com> wrote:
> > people running TLDs like that is asking for trademark
> > lawsuits. Lawsuits to who ? Me ? :) I don`t care I am
> > not in USA. To you ? When (and IF) they can notice such
> > domain you can always say "not we (openNIC.org) own
> > this domain" and/or "Ok, we will replace/remove it".
> > And IF this will happen I think openNIC will have
> > absolutely free promotion to many people again because
> > it can be in the world news :) Also, about which lines
> > in law you are talking about ?
> >
> > For what ? We don`t use this names for commercial
> > purposes and don`t tell anything about this is our
> > products or trade marks or something like this.
> > Also we can (and I think must) reserve all trade marks
> > names 2level domains in TLDs and not allow to register
> > them. Or much more - do HTTP redirect to the real site
> > (example: rockstar.gta --HTTP-redirect->
> > www.rockstargames.com [1])
> >
> > These companies are making money on the players
> > (community) and they are glad when community are
> > growing up.
> >
> > I agree that you are right that in openNIC not enough
> > content, so we need to change it if we want openNIC to
> > be massive project and this a chance to get it.
> > .games or .game is good idea too, but i think it will
> > be harder to attract people (content) into it.
> >
> > On 08.09.2017 20:50, Daniel Quintiliani wrote: I
> > use .dyn and .bit addresses for my Minetest game
> > servers, and list them within the game and on the
> > forums.
> >
> > https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=13401#p194643
> > https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=16726#p252801
> > https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=17129#p260977
> I try to open this URLs but there is SQL error page:
> connect to MySQL refused.
> Maybe .mt oe .mine TLD is good for this. YOURNICKNAME.mt
>
> P.S. Also I want to ask about .rus TLD creation.
>
> With best regards, Dmitry S. Nikolaev
>
> Moscow, Russia
> phone: +7 (499) 678 8007 [ext. 6003]
> fax: +7 (499) 678 8007 [ext. 7777]
> www: http://www.mega-net.ru
> mail: dnikolaev AT mega-net.ru
> SIP URI: dnikolaev AT sip.mega-net.ru || dn AT sip.mega-net.ru
>
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