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[<vv AT cgs.pw>]

I agree, if you don't try anything, nothing
will happen.

And I do like your enthusiasm. :)

~ Ole


On Wed, 13 Sep 2017 11:43:29 +0300
"Dmitry S. Nikolaev" <dn AT mega-net.ru> wrote:

> Hi.
> 
> Thanks for your reply and your opinion.
> 
> I agree with you on many items and you right. But I still
> have something more to say.
> 
> The main reason of creating "game" TLD is allow people to
> create own NICKNAME page.
> As example for me it will be virus-net-ru.gta
> Ofc that just creating .gta TLD will NOT attract people.
> We still need distribute such URLs in common Internet and
> maybe try to find hoster for such pages.
> So people, who already in the opennic project and who
> playing these games, can help on startup.
> Again as example of this: I will post link to
> virus-net-ru.gta in my Facebook. So my friends can see
> post and link and have curiosity how to open it.
> This is the least that we need for. So they can google or
> ask me how to open it AND SO they will know about opennic
> project and other TLDs. As to myself I only find out
> about opennic after I start to learn how to get .bit
> domain. Before I even don`t heard about opennic.
> 
> Also I know main thing: *If you do not try to do
> anything, then nothing will happen.*
> Then think about:
> How old opennic project is ? What was achieved during
> this time ? How many people know about it ?
> 
> 
> P.S. I remind that it was just an idea about how to
> attract people and promotion for the project.
> 
> If someone have another idea - write them here.
> 
> 
> With best regards, Dmitry S. Nikolaev
> 
> Moscow, Russia
> phone: +7 (499) 678 8007 [ext. 6003]
> fax: +7 (499) 678 8007 [ext. 7777]
> www: http://www.mega-net.ru
> mail: dnikolaev AT mega-net.ru
> SIP URI: dnikolaev AT sip.mega-net.ru || dn AT sip.mega-net.ru
> 
> On 12.09.2017 23:15, vv AT cgs.pw wrote:
> > I've brought up our TLDs in the past, and
> > it seems like it's hard to get much interest
> > or action in this regard.
> >
> > There is probably a good reason for this.
> >
> > Content is not so easy to create and for
> > the most part people want it communicated
> > to as many people as possible so they use
> > ICANN domains instead of, or in addition to
> > ours. There seems to be little interest in
> > having content which is only OpenNIC accessible.
> >
> > The other major internet sphere where we see
> > this is with .onion sites. The difference
> > there is that there is a distinct reason for
> > using those, so it also seems like there is
> > much more uptake by content creators.
> >
> > What would be the reason for using an OpenNIC
> > domain exclusively for ones content? I am
> > asking because that is probably what we need
> > to answer if we want our TLDs used more.
> >
> > There is also another minor problem, and that
> > is that most of the people involved with
> > OpenNIC are primarily interested in spending
> > time developing the infrastructure and not
> > content. This is great because we need these
> > people to shoulder the whole program, but
> > that's not the kind of person who spends hours
> > writing web sites.
> >
> > As for games, I don't really know anything about
> > them and how their interests can help us much.
> > Do gamers have a practical use for TLDs that are
> > not reachable by the greater population? Perhaps
> > they do, I don't know.
> >
> > There may be other special interest groups who
> > would be interested in our TLDs for various
> > reasons. But I think that the difficulty of using
> > non ICANN names is not easy to overcome. Yes, a small
> > percentage of the population is indeed able to change
> > and maintain a domain name resolver address in their
> > OS, but most can't or simply are not interested is
> > such things. It seems to me that we will be limited
> > to a very small number of interested people unless
> > something changes in that regard. I note that even
> > something as large as The Daily Stormer has been
> > moving around various hosts and when they can't get
> > one, prefer to default to a .onion address.
> >
> > To sum up, I don't think we'll have much luck
> > promoting our TLDs except to the very few who do not
> > want to use ICANN or find a .onion unacceptable.
> >
> > Regards,
> >         Ole
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 12 Sep 2017 14:05:56 +0300
> > "Dmitry S. Nikolaev" <dn AT mega-net.ru> wrote:
> >  
> >> So, that`s all ? Anybody else ? More opinions ?
> >> What next ? Forget about TLDs ?
> >>
> >> With best regards, Dmitry S. Nikolaev
> >>
> >> Moscow, Russia
> >> phone: +7 (499) 678 8007 [ext. 6003]
> >> fax: +7 (499) 678 8007 [ext. 7777]
> >> www: http://www.mega-net.ru
> >> mail: dnikolaev AT mega-net.ru
> >> SIP URI: dnikolaev AT sip.mega-net.ru ||
> >> dn AT sip.mega-net.ru
> >>
> >> On 09.09.2017 08:20, Dmitry S. Nikolaev wrote:  
> >>> Hi.
> >>>
> >>> First of all thanks for the feedback.
> >>>    
> >>>> Christopher <weblionx AT gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> people running TLDs like that is asking for trademark
> >>>> lawsuits.    
> >>> Lawsuits to who ? Me ? :) I don`t care I am not in
> >>> USA. To you ? When (and IF) they can notice such
> >>> domain you can always say "not we (openNIC.org) own
> >>> this domain" and/or "Ok, we will replace/remove it".
> >>> And IF this will happen I think openNIC will have
> >>> absolutely free promotion to many people again because
> >>> it can be in the world news :) Also, about which lines
> >>> in law you are talking about ?
> >>>
> >>> For what ? We don`t use this names for commercial
> >>> purposes and don`t tell anything about this is our
> >>> products or trade marks or something like this.
> >>> Also we can (and I think must) reserve all trade marks
> >>> names 2level domains in TLDs and not allow to register
> >>> them. Or much more - do HTTP redirect to the real site
> >>> (example: rockstar.gta --HTTP-redirect->
> >>> www.rockstargames.com)
> >>>
> >>> These companies are making money on the players
> >>> (community) and they are glad when community are
> >>> growing up.
> >>>
> >>> I agree that you are right that in openNIC not enough
> >>> content, so we need to change it if we want openNIC to
> >>> be massive project and this a chance to get it.
> >>> .games or .game is good idea too, but i think it will
> >>> be harder to attract people (content) into it.
> >>>    
> >>>> On 08.09.2017 20:50, Daniel Quintiliani wrote:    
> >>>>> I use .dyn and .bit addresses for my Minetest game
> >>>>> servers, and list them within the game and on the
> >>>>> forums.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=13401#p194643
> >>>>> https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=16726#p252801
> >>>>> https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=17129#p260977    
> >>> I try to open this URLs but there is SQL error page:
> >>> connect to MySQL refused.
> >>> Maybe .mt oe .mine TLD is good for this.
> >>> YOURNICKNAME.mt
> >>>
> >>> P.S. Also I want to ask about .rus TLD creation.
> >>>
> >>> With best regards, Dmitry S. Nikolaev
> >>>
> >>> Moscow, Russia
> >>> phone: +7 (499) 678 8007 [ext. 6003]
> >>> fax: +7 (499) 678 8007 [ext. 7777]
> >>> www: http://www.mega-net.ru
> >>> mail: dnikolaev AT mega-net.ru
> >>> SIP URI: dnikolaev AT sip.mega-net.ru ||
> >>> dn AT sip.mega-net.ru
> >>>
> >>>
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