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[Al Beano <albino AT autistici.org>]

you could delegate cyb.a. in the same way you delegate cyb. ... but the real 
solution would be gain enough traction to get to the point where we can 
actually stand up to ICANN. That's why I think a browser plugin is a good 
idea — more users = more power. 

That won't happen without some public pressure though, because each wanted 
TLD is potential money for ICANN and if OpenNIC is providing a free 
alternative they won't make that money. 

albino

On 18 September 2017 16:53:34 BST, Jonah Aragon <jonah AT triplebit.net> wrote:
>The issue with the backup plan you all propose isn't that it's on .o
>specifically, it's that any such backup plan would centralize the DNS
>infrastructure because at the end of it some ONE person is running that
>top
>level TLD, and whether that person is me on .o or [some random person]
>running [some random single letter TLD] doesn't matter. I'd be happy to
>have the backup on .o, and I think I'm pretty trustworthy around here.
>But
>that's certainly no reason for you all to trust me or anyone else. The
>backup solutions mentioned here are not good alternatives to our
>current
>setup, and the real solution is to make a decision to not back down
>against
>ICANN in the future. TLD operators defending their TLDs is much better
>than
>TLD operators relegating their records to another
>slightly-more-protected
>TLD. Either that or give up? It all comes down to what the community
>wants,
>do we really care that much about ICANN's endless stream of pretty much
>unused gTLDs?
>
>Jonah
>
>On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 1:37 PM, Al Beano <albino AT autistici.org> wrote:
>
>> I agree. If we want some kind of backup plan, wouldn't it be more
>sensible
>> to use another one letter TLD? (Maybe .a?)
>>
>> On 17 September 2017 19:33:32 BST, Jonah Aragon <jonah AT triplebit.net>
>> wrote:
>> >FWIW I've reserved all the [TLD].o domains so if someone wants to
>> >seriously
>> >setup a backup or something using them I can give them access to
>those
>> >domains. (Or if a TLD operator wants theirs for whatever reason I
>can
>> >transfer it to them).
>> >
>> >That being said, I don't think it's a great idea to use the .o
>domains
>> >for
>> >this purpose, it seems like a great way to make this project too
>> >centralized, and we're already too close to that line already.
>> >
>> >Jonah
>> >
>> >On Sep 14, 2017 10:19 PM, "Megan Parat" <megan.parat AT yahoo.com>
>wrote:
>> >
>> >I agree with .o as a backup and .onic/.opennic for ICANN.
>> >
>> >I found this browser extension, Blockchain DNS (
>> >https://blockchain-dns.info/ ), which lets you resolve
>> >Namecoin/Emercoin
>> >domains.
>> >Maybe OpenNIC could have something similar to make the switch
>easier?
>> >
>> >It's probably wiser to first reach out to communities similar to
>> >OpenNIC
>> >(open source or privacy?).
>> >On 14/09/2017 09:53, Amunak wrote:
>> >
>> >It's also ideal to create a ton of confusion - just like creating
>> >.games
>> >(vs. ICANN's .game) would be.
>> >
>> >Realistically the *only* option for OpenNIC to actually be able to
>> >spread
>> >among "ordinary users" in huge numbers would in my mind be to buy a
>> >.opennic (or .onic or similar) TLD from ICANN, make it mirror our
>> >"backup"
>> >TLD (that I guess we have yet to create). That would then allow us
>to
>> >freely use links to OpenNIC domains in the ICANN-only web. We could
>> >then
>> >strongly suggest that people who own opennic domains and run (mainly
>> >web)
>> >services on them should put up a notice for every visitor who comes
>in
>> >through the ICANN domain informing them at least briefly about
>OpenNIC,
>> >our
>> >goals and how to connect to us.
>> >
>> >Otherwise all the other ideas are nice, but by definition they
>cannot
>> >draw
>> >in any people as they won't be able to connect to us without the
>prior
>> >"hard" digging for information.
>> >
>> >Amunak
>> >
>> >On 14.9.2017 07:46, me AT harukigrande.com wrote:
>> >
>> >Just gonna throw it in here...
>> >
>> >ICANN has .lgbt, but I know most of my friends prefer LGBTQ so this
>is
>> >another option for progression to more users.
>> >
>> >
>> >*Haruki N. Grande*
>> >*http://harukigrande.pirate/*
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >On 2017-09-14 05:12, Dmitry S. Nikolaev wrote:
>> >
>> >Same here, I agree that is nice idea and good option.
>> >
>> >With best regards, Dmitry S. Nikolaev
>> >
>> >Moscow, Russia
>> >phone: +7 (499) 678 8007 [ext. 6003]
>> >fax: +7 (499) 678 8007 [ext. 7777]
>> >www: http://www.mega-net.ru
>> >mail: dnikolaev AT mega-net.ru
>> >SIP URI: dnikolaev AT sip.mega-net.ru || dn AT sip.mega-net.ru
>> >
>> >On 14.09.2017 02:43, Grant Baron wrote:
>> >
>> >I agree with Dan’s idea with using .o as a backup. I think it
>> >would be very productive to do this.
>> >
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