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[Sebastian Makowiecki <soocki AT mailbox.org>]

Ok, many 'potential' members might be using discord, so it happens that many current OpenNIC members are not and are against implementing non-free (not talking about the price here) means of communication.

On 7 July 2018 19:53:35 GMT+01:00, "Tyler N. Todd" <TTodd AT ttodd.com> wrote:

Jonah has a great point.

We should be cautious of new technology, but  not overly cautious and to strike it down. If we do not embrace it, that's how we will all be left behind, and limit the target audience.

Perhaps it's time for re-evaluation of the platform for this year, and not stay with the same tech that was relevant when this was first launched.

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From: Jonah Aragon <jonah AT triplebit.net>
Sent: Saturday, July 7, 2018 2:48 PM
To: discuss AT lists.opennicproject.org
Subject: Re: [opennic-discuss] Discord?

Discord has a number of benefits outside of "a more modern interface"
that makes it a nicer platform for community discussion. Multimedia
messages, moderation tools and user roles, unlimited members, search
functionality and backlog, syntax highlighting and markdown support, a
massive amount of integrations into other platforms, and private
channels to name a few. Not to mention the massive familiarity of
Discord among both open-source developers
(https://discordapp.com/open-source) and gamers, who are honestly both
probably our biggest demographics for a project like this. People
already have a Discord account, we might as well be accessible to
them. Also it's free (cost-wise) forever. Not many open source
projects can match even half these features.

But nobody is forcing you to join Discord in any case.

Jonah

On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 1:37 PM Famicoman <famicoman AT gmail.com> wrote:
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> I agree with all of the points re: Discord being a bad tool for a project like OpenNIC with its closed software. I'm more than happy with the IRC channel bridged to Matrix if I want something of a more modern interface.
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> On Sat, Jul 7, 2018, 2:31 PM Al Beano <albino AT autistici.org> wrote:
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>> I've joined the Discord and complained there but I think it's worth voicing my concerns here as well — especially seeing as I'm complaining that Discord is a bad tool to use for community discourse.
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>> To communicate using Discord, users *must* run a proprietary program. Discord have taken steps to make the development of libre third-party clients difficult/impossible. This alone should rule it out for any kind of OpenNIC communication.
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>> Excluding users who don't want to use non-free software from discussions is a bad direction for OpenNIC to take. I understand that the discord 'server' is described as being 'unofficial', but it is run by two fairly high-profile members of the OpenNIC community and therefore has a certain degree of validity. It will inevitably result in discussion moving to a platform that some users cannot/will not access.
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>> albino
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>> On 6 July 2018 23:42:35 BST, Jonah Aragon <jonah AT triplebit.net> wrote:
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>>> On second thought, I decided to create one, since Discord servers are hardly a finite resource, just to see if anyone would join.
>>>
>>> Feel free to join https://discord.gg/6qTNcEE, and we’ll see if that gains any traction.
>>>
>>> Jonah
>>>
>>> On Jul 6, 2018, at 5:30 PM, Jonah Aragon <jonah AT triplebit.net> wrote:
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>>> No.
>>>
>>> It’d be convenient for me since I’ve been using Discord a lot as well for some other semi-related projects, but I don’t think anyone would join besides you and I. Otherwise I’d be happy to pull one together.
>>>
>>> Jonah
>>>
>>> On Jul 6, 2018, at 3:52 PM, Daniel Quintiliani <danq AT runbox.com> wrote:
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>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>
>>> I remember some time ago there was discussion of moving OpenNIC IRC to Discord, and the idea was shot down due to Discord being closed-source. I've been using Discord a lot more lately, and was wondering if an unofficial OpenNIC Discord was ever created in addition to the IRC channel.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>> -Dan Q
>>>
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