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["Tyler N. Todd" <TTodd AT ttodd.com>]

So much of this! Time for a re-evaluation and determine what the benefits are at this day and age of emerging technology. We can't claim to be an open community when there are a few key players that are making the choices for us all, when they have a closed mindset, even if they claim they don't. If they hold the power, it may be that they just do not want to give it up. This doesn't make us any different from how ICANN is now/was. Sure, there needs to be folks that keep all of the pieces together, but not be the say-all.

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From: discuss-request AT lists.opennicproject.org <discuss-request AT lists.opennicproject.org> on behalf of Jonah Aragon <jonah AT triplebit.net>
Sent: Monday, July 9, 2018 10:45:39 AM
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Subject: Re: [opennic-discuss] Discord?

 

I will keep working on my best effort at keeping openNIC working as it has from the beginning

Perhaps it isn’t the greatest idea to keep using 90s technology in 2018? I suspect the main reason people use OpenNIC was because ICANN was a government operated bureaucracy unwilling to change or open the system to power users, and OpenNIC was (in theory) an alternative system opened to everybody. We’ve seemed to stray far from those ideals, at this point we’re just building another ICANN. The technology landscape is moving on and leaving us both behind. 

Jonah

On Jul 9, 2018, at 1:17 AM, kevin <krattai AT gmail.com> wrote:

More bandwidth does not make for more clear conversation.  I
specifically still use text only email for reasons that make perfect
sense to me and are most effective for me.  I DO NOT want HTML and
other crap in my email and I DO NOT like animated graphics in my social
media feeds.

Newer, faster, whatever.  I do not know how many people are still
around from when openNIC started, but THE MAIN REASON it started was
because people (the members) did not want someone else controlling how
they used the internet naming system.  And I would suspect they also
don't want others telling them how to have a conversation with other
members (ie. using some other platform).

Here's the reality.  This community will continue on, no matter what
platform and unless this email server and the IRC gets shut down, some,
maybe many of the openNIC community will continue to use it.  I will
not "go to discord" (or any other platform) to "vote" for anything.  I
will keep working on my best effort at keeping openNIC working as it
has from the beginning and will continue to watch this list and make
comments while it still exists.

For those who want to play on Discord, I say "have fun there".  I'm
happy here.

Kevin

On Sat, 2018-07-07 at 20:14 +0100, Al Beano wrote:

On 7 July 2018 19:46:05 BST, Jonah Aragon <jonah AT triplebit.net>

wrote:

Discord has a number of benefits outside of "a more modern

interface"......

Yes. IRC is not an ideal platform but it at least provides user

freedom. For the reasons I explained in my first post in this thread

I think Discord is completely unacceptable for OpenNIC communication

regardless of how many great features it might have. 

Also it's free (cost-wise) forever.

Says who? It's a closed platform. There are no guarantees. 

But nobody is forcing you to join Discord in any case.

I did join, mainly because I am already 'suffering' under Discord and

one more server will do me no harm, but this sentiment is missing the

point — the more traction Discord gains in our community, the more

discussion will shift there and the more people who can't/won't use

Discord will be excluded, and others will end up using a proprietary

program just because they want to be involved. I think this is

dangerous. 

Furthermore, fusl made this comment on Discord:

fusl#1337: `it is run by two fairly high-profile members of the

OpenNIC community` so what? i run two 8.8.8.8/.4.4 pops, that also

doesnt mean that users have to use googles public dns resolvers now

and i do run my own one as well LOL

And when I said that I'd rather discuss this on the mailing list:

fusl#1337: it's imho not a discussion and you can't force me to

reply on the mailing list when i do not want to :smiley:

I'd like to address this here regardless (although I can't do much

about the definition of a discussion) — you using Discord gives

validates it and helps to provide interesting/valuable discussion

there, pressuring users to adopt Discord in addition to other

platforms and excluding those who do not. Your Google resolvers don't

do this. 

albino

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