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[kevin <krattai AT gmail.com>]

More bandwidth does not make for more clear conversation.  I
specifically still use text only email for reasons that make perfect
sense to me and are most effective for me.  I DO NOT want HTML and
other crap in my email and I DO NOT like animated graphics in my social
media feeds.

Newer, faster, whatever.  I do not know how many people are still
around from when openNIC started, but THE MAIN REASON it started was
because people (the members) did not want someone else controlling how
they used the internet naming system.  And I would suspect they also
don't want others telling them how to have a conversation with other
members (ie. using some other platform).

Here's the reality.  This community will continue on, no matter what
platform and unless this email server and the IRC gets shut down, some,
maybe many of the openNIC community will continue to use it.  I will
not "go to discord" (or any other platform) to "vote" for anything.  I
will keep working on my best effort at keeping openNIC working as it
has from the beginning and will continue to watch this list and make
comments while it still exists.

For those who want to play on Discord, I say "have fun there".  I'm
happy here.

Kevin

On Sat, 2018-07-07 at 20:14 +0100, Al Beano wrote:
> 
> On 7 July 2018 19:46:05 BST, Jonah Aragon <jonah AT triplebit.net>
> wrote:
> > 
> > Discord has a number of benefits outside of "a more modern
> > interface"......
> Yes. IRC is not an ideal platform but it at least provides user
> freedom. For the reasons I explained in my first post in this thread
> I think Discord is completely unacceptable for OpenNIC communication
> regardless of how many great features it might have. 
> 
> > 
> > Also it's free (cost-wise) forever.
> Says who? It's a closed platform. There are no guarantees. 
> 
> > 
> > But nobody is forcing you to join Discord in any case.
> I did join, mainly because I am already 'suffering' under Discord and
> one more server will do me no harm, but this sentiment is missing the
> point — the more traction Discord gains in our community, the more
> discussion will shift there and the more people who can't/won't use
> Discord will be excluded, and others will end up using a proprietary
> program just because they want to be involved. I think this is
> dangerous. 
> 
> Furthermore, fusl made this comment on Discord:
> 
> > 
> > fusl#1337: `it is run by two fairly high-profile members of the
> > OpenNIC community` so what? i run two 8.8.8.8/.4.4 pops, that also
> > doesnt mean that users have to use googles public dns resolvers now
> > and i do run my own one as well LOL
> And when I said that I'd rather discuss this on the mailing list:
> > 
> > fusl#1337: it's imho not a discussion and you can't force me to
> > reply on the mailing list when i do not want to :smiley:
> I'd like to address this here regardless (although I can't do much
> about the definition of a discussion) — you using Discord gives
> validates it and helps to provide interesting/valuable discussion
> there, pressuring users to adopt Discord in addition to other
> platforms and excluding those who do not. Your Google resolvers don't
> do this. 
> 
> albino
> 
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