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- From: Jonah Aragon <jonah AT triplebit.net>
- To: discuss AT lists.opennicproject.org
- Subject: Re: [opennic-discuss] Discord?
- Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2018 09:45:39 -0500
I will keep working on my best effort at keeping openNIC working as it has from the beginning
Jonah
More bandwidth does not make for more clear conversation. I
specifically still use text only email for reasons that make perfect
sense to me and are most effective for me. I DO NOT want HTML and
other crap in my email and I DO NOT like animated graphics in my social
media feeds.
Newer, faster, whatever. I do not know how many people are still
around from when openNIC started, but THE MAIN REASON it started was
because people (the members) did not want someone else controlling how
they used the internet naming system. And I would suspect they also
don't want others telling them how to have a conversation with other
members (ie. using some other platform).
Here's the reality. This community will continue on, no matter what
platform and unless this email server and the IRC gets shut down, some,
maybe many of the openNIC community will continue to use it. I will
not "go to discord" (or any other platform) to "vote" for anything. I
will keep working on my best effort at keeping openNIC working as it
has from the beginning and will continue to watch this list and make
comments while it still exists.
For those who want to play on Discord, I say "have fun there". I'm
happy here.
Kevin
On Sat, 2018-07-07 at 20:14 +0100, Al Beano wrote:On 7 July 2018 19:46:05 BST, Jonah Aragon <jonah AT triplebit.net>wrote:Discord has a number of benefits outside of "a more moderninterface"......Yes. IRC is not an ideal platform but it at least provides userfreedom. For the reasons I explained in my first post in this threadI think Discord is completely unacceptable for OpenNIC communicationregardless of how many great features it might have.Also it's free (cost-wise) forever.Says who? It's a closed platform. There are no guarantees.But nobody is forcing you to join Discord in any case.I did join, mainly because I am already 'suffering' under Discord andone more server will do me no harm, but this sentiment is missing thepoint — the more traction Discord gains in our community, the morediscussion will shift there and the more people who can't/won't useDiscord will be excluded, and others will end up using a proprietaryprogram just because they want to be involved. I think this isdangerous.Furthermore, fusl made this comment on Discord:fusl#1337: `it is run by two fairly high-profile members of theOpenNIC community` so what? i run two 8.8.8.8/.4.4 pops, that alsodoesnt mean that users have to use googles public dns resolvers nowand i do run my own one as well LOLAnd when I said that I'd rather discuss this on the mailing list:fusl#1337: it's imho not a discussion and you can't force me toreply on the mailing list when i do not want to :smiley:I'd like to address this here regardless (although I can't do muchabout the definition of a discussion) — you using Discord givesvalidates it and helps to provide interesting/valuable discussionthere, pressuring users to adopt Discord in addition to otherplatforms and excluding those who do not. Your Google resolvers don'tdo this.albino--------You are a member of the OpenNIC Discuss list.You may unsubscribe by emailing discuss-unsubscribe AT lists.opennicproject.org
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- Re: [opennic-discuss] Discord?, (continued)
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Discord?, Philipp Schafft, 07/07/2018
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Discord?, vv, 07/07/2018
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Discord?, Al Beano, 07/07/2018
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Discord?, Famicoman, 07/07/2018
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Discord?, Jonah Aragon, 07/07/2018
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Discord?, Tyler N. Todd, 07/07/2018
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Discord?, Sebastian Makowiecki, 07/07/2018
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Discord?, Al Beano, 07/07/2018
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Discord?, kevin, 07/09/2018
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Discord?, vv, 07/09/2018
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Discord?, Jonah Aragon, 07/09/2018
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Discord?, Tyler N. Todd, 07/09/2018
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Discord?, kevin, 07/09/2018
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Discord?, Daniel Quintiliani, 07/09/2018
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Discord?, Daniel Quintiliani, 07/09/2018
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Discord?, kevin, 07/09/2018
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Discord?, Sebastian Makowiecki, 07/09/2018
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Discord?, Tyler N. Todd, 07/07/2018
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Discord?, Jonah Aragon, 07/07/2018
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Discord?, Jonah Aragon, 07/10/2018
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Discord?, Famicoman, 07/07/2018
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Discord?, Philipp Schafft, 07/07/2018
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