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[Jonah Aragon <jonah AT triplebit.net>]

> I think it should be more long-term than short-term, but others here disagree.

Well, lots of people end up not sticking around that long so it’s hard to blame them.

Is this proposal going to retroactively apply to all failed proposals within the last year or only apply going forward?

Jonah

On Jul 9, 2018, at 11:37 PM, Daniel Quintiliani <danq AT runbox.com> wrote:

I've heard that said about UDRP, actually.  If you lose, adjust something a little and start over.

To Jonah, you suggested in the past revisiting votes you lost on, and are doing that now with Discourse and Discord.
To the person I forget who who was unhappy about .front being voted out, he wanted to vote again (nothing came of it, possibly it was just complaining)
And as for myself, I did the same thing for .free/.libre, and we held a vote for a "nonbinding suggestion" that the TLD owner rejected anyway.

It's just good to have a fixed time limit of some sort on this issue, to keep things stable and ensure integrity of the organization, just like how we voted on your proposals for voting procedures. I think it should be more long-term than short-term, but others here disagree.

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-Dan Q


On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 23:27:05 -0500, Jonah Aragon <jonah AT triplebit.net> wrote:

Seeing as I was called out specifically in the initial post, I figured I should chime in. Adding such a time limit just seems arbitrary to me. I’ll be voting for no change to the current system, barring some extraordinary argument. Is there any precedent for such a system in other democratic setups?

Jonah

On Jul 9, 2018, at 9:05 PM, Daniel Quintiliani <danq AT runbox.com> wrote:

Would probably be best instead of a yes/no to do something like:

* 1 year

* 8 months

* 6 months

* Less than 6 months, determined by a separate proposal

* No changes.

If "less than 6 months" is chosen, we can do a separate proposal with

* 3 months

* 1 months

* No changes.

If "no changes" wins in either case, proposals such as this cannot be revisited for 6 months after the votes are counted.

Would you agree that this is a better way?

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-Dan Q

On Mon, 09 Jul 2018 22:09:30 +0100, Sebastian Makowiecki <soocki AT mailbox.org> wrote:

Was thinking 6-8 months. Eight seems fair.

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Sebastian Makowiecki

On Mon, 9 Jul, 2018 at 10:03 PM, Daniel Quintiliani <danq AT runbox.com>

wrote:

6 months?

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-Dan Q

On Mon, 09 Jul 2018 21:52:12 +0100, Sebastian Makowiecki

<soocki AT mailbox.org> wrote:

The idea is good, one year to much, 3 months to little, in my

opinion

that is for what is worth.

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Sebastian Makowiecki

On Mon, 9 Jul, 2018 at 9:42 PM, Rouben <rouben AT rouben.net> wrote:

1 year might be a bit too much... perhaps 1-3 months?

Rouben

On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 2:29 PM Daniel Quintiliani

<danq AT runbox.com>

wrote:

Hi,

There has been a problem of people trying to hold new votes too

recently after their proposals lose. This includes Jonah's

proposals

to replace IRC with Discord and Sympa with Discourse, and someone

who lost I think the .front TLD, and I did so myself with the

.free/.libre thing.

I propose there be a one year (365 day) waiting period before

anyone

can bring proposals back up for a new vote.

What do you think?

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-Dan Q

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