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Re: [opennic-discuss] [PROPOSAL] Require voting in English


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  • From: "Daniel Quintiliani" <danq AT runbox.com>
  • To: "discuss" <discuss AT lists.opennicproject.org>
  • Subject: Re: [opennic-discuss] [PROPOSAL] Require voting in English
  • Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2018 20:13:07 -0400 (EDT)

Again, I have no problem with discussion in any language, but why should we
have proposals and votes which only a select few from the DE list can read?

--

-Dan Q


On Thu, 09 Aug 2018 00:29:11 +0100, Sebastian Makowiecki <soocki AT mailbox.org>
wrote:

> Seems more like an opportunity more than 'a risk'. If there's enough
> participants an alternative regionalized lists may allow people who lack
> the ability to express their thoughts in English to participate. On a
> second thought we might be at risk of widening our reach than.
>
> The English speaking list will remain the 'core' channel of communication
> where all the important 'spaghetti-talk' takes place.
>
> ~
> Sebastian Makowiecki
>
> On 8 August 2018 19:54:42 GMT+01:00, Daniel Quintiliani <danq AT runbox.com>
> wrote:
> >But then there's the risk of having e.g.
> >"discuss-de AT lists.opennicproject.org" form eventually.
> >
> >--
> >
> >-Dan Q
> >
> >On Wed, 8 Aug 2018 10:04:34 -0500, Jonah Aragon <jonah AT opennic.org>
> >wrote:
> >
> >> You’re coming to the same conclusion as me, just via a different
> >route. I don’t care what language people communicate in unofficially or
> >off the record, I’m merely saying that all communication on official
> >channels (i.e. proposals and votes, here on the mailing list)
> >absolutely need to be conducted in English.
> >>
> >> Jonah
> >>
> >> > On Aug 7, 2018, at 11:17 PM, Daniel Quintiliani <danq AT runbox.com>
> >wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I think that's a really bad idea, people should be allowed to
> >communicate in whatever language they want. It's just the proposals and
> >votes that should be in English, and when I come up with the proposal
> >for this, the text would be limited to proposals and votes.
> >> >
> >> > Spilling over into your "yea/nay for the whole package only"
> >proposal thread, perhaps looking at a situation like this (English for
> >proposals,votes,discussions) can encourage the same line-item yea/nay
> >which successfully standardized our voting and discussion policies?
> >> >
> >> > For example, the ongoing vote on invalidating the previous
> >contested vote originally included Jonah's not-so-popular rushed-in
> >addon. This is too often how US Congress works (think how REAL ID was
> >unpopular until it passed as an addon to the Hurricane Katrina
> >emergency funding bill). Limiting ourselves to this is a bad idea,
> >especially given our past successes with line-item yea/nay.
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> >
> >> > -Dan Q
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, 7 Aug 2018 19:59:53 -0500, Jonah Aragon <jonah AT opennic.org>
> >wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> That being said, this proposal should require that not only votes,
> >but all discussion on this list be in English. This is an English
> >speaking community, and it should be required on all official
> >communication to prevent confusion.
> >> >>
> >> >> Jonah
> >> >
> >> >
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