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  • From: Zach Gibbens <infocop411 AT gmail.com>
  • To: discuss AT lists.opennicproject.org
  • Subject: Re: [opennic-discuss] Hi list!
  • Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 23:15:48 -0400

On 08/15/2013 07:03 PM, Ian Carroll wrote:
Maybe one of the TLDs could (or already have) put their code up under OSS.
Everyone could improve it and use it.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 15, 2013, at 6:34 PM, "J.B. BERLIN" <endlesspixel AT hotmail.com> wrote:

I think a central registration site is not the point but a standard web
frontend and a standard backend.
That what I now seen was that every opennic .tld have they own soultion for register a domain.
From: Ian Carroll
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 12:35 AM
To: discuss AT lists.opennicproject.org
Subject: Re: [opennic-discuss] Hi list!
What if we had one central registration site?


On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 6:29 PM, Christopher <weblionx AT gmail.com> wrote:
Domains aren't an issue, all T1s mirror each other. The problem is the
registration sites aren't distributed like that.

On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 6:17 PM, Ian Carroll
<ian.carroll AT snapstudiodesign.com> wrote:
I'm going to go ahead and defeat the whole purpose of decentralized systems
and say we need a central fallback server that has all records for all TLD's
and when the main T1/2 server is dead it goes to that server.


On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 6:04 PM, J.B. BERLIN <endlesspixel AT hotmail.com>
wrote:
Hello,

I think that it would be better run the all services with more uptime if
they where more standards
for the Opennic service like for registration, webfrontends ect.

J.B.

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Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 11:35 PM
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sites look down.

You know, this really isn't good and in the light of I.C.A.N.N. firing
up more T.L.D.s that collide with ours, no one in their right mind
will take us seriously when our services are so often unreliable :-(

It seems T1's and their services more so than T2.

Is this the way it always is/has been or is it a symptom of the
feelings caused by the onset of such domain collisions... i.e. is this
just going to get worse as more and more OpenNIC sys-admins feel they
are wasting their time and don't keep their services up and running
99.**% of the time?

Is OpenNIC going to end up simply an alternative DNS provider (which
would be no bad thing in and of itself perhaps)?

Peter

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Just throwing this out there, for some of us (myself included) it has nothing to do with opennic or icann, it's abuse and stricter enforcement of ToS (alot of ToS has sections about open resolvers) I had to stop my t2 due to a combo of both, a dns amplification attack which took out my server's connection, and when the isp looked into it, reminded me of the terms (it was polite, they didn't kick me off, but I did have to suspend services)

one of the t1 servers recently suffered from a DoS that was likely directed at them (if I recall the conversation correctly, kept asking for large transfers at a rate excessively beyond normal use)

I have my theories on why this is happening lately, but I'll keep that to myself for now, but I will say this, I saw more abuse happen in the past month or two, than I've seen in the last five years (I'm talking in terms of scale AND length of attack, I saw one or the other, but it seems like it's more intense nowadays)

also, I just went through a move for work, which meant I wasn't online as much as usual this month, we do volunteer here, we do work elsewhere too, we all have our hardships come up from time to time (well, most of us, I can't speak for everyone, and really I'm trying to speak for myself only)

I like alot of the ideas in this thread for their own merit, but the issues brought up, issues with uptime, I don't have full control of my ISP, or the cage my server sits in, and if I had any control on those that actively attack my server....well lets just say violence is never the answer, but sometimes it just feels right.

the idea of a central fallback server seems like a contradiction to me, however I agree more redundancy is ideal, each client should have two servers at least, ideally not from the same volunteer, host or datacenter, each of these t2 servers should have all the t1 servers for syncing tlds, all t1 servers are to sync amongst each other to serve as a temporary backup.

To the question "Is OpenNIC going to end up simply an alternative DNS provider (which would be no bad thing in and of itself perhaps)?" I think that already happened in some respects, less than a percent was traffic for opennic tlds on my server, and I was fine with that, but I still want our alternate root to survive too.

I'm not sending this to start a fight, or to put down any of these ideas, merely highlighting that whatever we do, we should understand what's happening, what our changes will do, and I'm hoping this does some of that.



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