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[Jeff Taylor <shdwdrgn AT sourpuss.net>]

Doing a quick check against the data from grep.geek, I find 286 registered .ing domains that have web pages attached.  Of course nearly all of those will be redirected pages and not original content.

You asked in there was evidence that the TLD is causing conflict?  We wouldn't be having this discussion if there had not been a conflict.  A number of tier-2 servers are failing testing and users have been getting unpredictable results because the root zone was trying to use data from both icann and opennic.  There is no easy way to co-exist, we simply have to use one or the other as the source for the TLD.  Even if we did merge the data from ICANN and opennic, how would you resolve a conflict if someone registers an icann domain that is already in use by an opennic member?

How do you propose we amicably resolve this conflict?  ICANN has stated publicly that they believe alternate roots like opennic are a threat to the health of the internet.  All they care about is how much money they make, and opennic does not have the funding to hurt ICANN's income.  They wouldn't even consider discussing the issue with us because they believe they control the internet.

Keep in mind that even if you happen to resolve all of the above, the original maintainer of the zone has already given it up.  The registrar page hasn't been active in several months.  You would need to find someone else willing to host the zone, create a new registrar page, write the code to merge the two zone files together, and spend time as needed to manually resolve the conflicting domains.

On 12/23/2014 04:06 PM, David wrote:

OK my miss understanding,

I do ask for more information in my following question:

 When was the .ING tld was established is Opennic the first one in
holding .ing tld?

  What is the volume of users using .ING tld?
Where is been Hosted?

Is there enough evidence that .Ing tld is causing conflict with other
non opennic DNS servers?

and finally
Have we use our resources in contacting The complainers about ing.tld to
solve the problems and complains amicable?

My vote is to keep it and try to solve it amicable. Unless, the amount
of users, does not merit the time to keep the .ing tld. but will not
give it up too soon.

Respectfully


On 12/24/2014 6:49 AM, Julian De Marchi wrote:

On 12/24/14 08:15, David wrote:

We should stick to opennic should be following the to the letter their
own policy that was establish a long time ago. I smell a big rotten
rotten fish in trying to derail the opennic project.     We should
support
Our leaders and supporters of opennic. ICANN it is corporate piranha, in
other words Government greed in neutralizing the net..

There are no leaders within this project. The community drives the
direction OpenNIC travels with a few of us "care" takers around to
ensure it does not get derailed by any one person.

Jeff is 100% not, nor, ever will try and derail the project.

The problem is clear. Does OpenNIC keep or drop .ing TLD.

This is our 7 day discussion period. After this OpenNIC will have a vote
and then the community will decide what direction we travel in for this
issue.

To finish... Debate within OpenNIC is normal. But please keep it healthy
and on topic. There is no need to ever through accusations around unless
you can cite evidence to back up any claim.

--julian




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