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[Jeff Taylor <shdwdrgn AT sourpuss.net>]

OpenNic does not register TLDs with anyone.  We are a separate entity from other root-level zones.  We do not pay for ownership of our TLDs, and we are not an official body on the internet except unto ourselves.  When you visit opennic domains, you have to use opennic DNS servers for your lookups.  If we were a part of the general internet, you would not need to do this.

Opennic domains are free because we maintain our own existence.  All DNS information is created and controlled by ourselves.  This is why we can create our own TLDs as needed.  ANYONE can do what we do.  Many companies have their own internal DNS configuration to allow employees to reach company pages.  However because of this, you have to expect that there will be conflicts.  We can use any name we want, but so can everyone else... so if someone else chooses to use the same TLD as us, conflict management has to happen.

Nothing nefarious has occurred here.  Nobody swooped in and stole .ing from us.  This is just the way DNS works.  Nobody has to agree to our standards, and conflicts will happen.  This isn't the first time this is happened.  It won't be the last.  This is just the nature of the project.

On 12/23/2014 04:40 PM, David wrote:

Unless Google play off the correct cards of owner ship by waiting for
the expiration date to happen, Then opennic efforts are fruitless.

Unless:

Is this blames directly on opennic, by letting time to roll bye on the
renewing the registration of .ing?

 Did .ing date expired and Google knew this matter and just waited for
it to mature. If there is any expiration date on the register for .ing ?

I believe in keeping .ing, and not running from it.




On 12/24/2014 7:07 AM, Riley Baird wrote:

I doubt that the creation of .ing is intentionally trying to derail the
OpenNIC project. More likely, it was just a lack of concern for it,
perhaps through ignorance.

The entity which filed the application for .ing is Charleston Road
Registry, which is basically Google, but with a name change to meet
ICANN policy.

How many .ing domains are there? Do you think that Google could be
convinced to "grandfather" the already registered domains?

On 24/12/14 09:15, David wrote:

We should stick to opennic should be following the to the letter their
own policy that was establish a long time ago. I smell a big rotten
rotten fish in trying to derail the opennic project. 	We should support
Our leaders and supporters of opennic. ICANN it is corporate piranha, in
other words Government greed in neutralizing the net..

On 12/23/2014 11:45 PM, Jeff Taylor wrote:

In case you forgot, this issue was already discussed on the list earlier
this year, and the general consensus was that nobody had enough interest
to put forth the effort of contacting the EFF or anyone else.  If we
were going to fight for it, that would have been the time -- when ICANN
first announced the possibility of using .ing.  At this point its too
late, it's a done deal and any credibility we might have had towards a
claim is gone through lack of action.

But hey, if you want to hold me personally responsible for the loss of
the zone, more power to ya.


On 12/20/2014 01:15 PM, Daniel Quintiliani wrote:

I really think someone should contact the EFF about this issue. I
don't personally care about my .ing domains as they're just redirects,
but if everyone caves in like Jeff is, they're eventually gonna go
after Julian, and if Julian doesn't fight back, OpenNIC will be gone.
-- -Dan Q

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