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[Riley Baird <riley AT openmailbox.org>]

Thanks, that was exactly how I thought that OpenNIC worked, and I was a
little confused as to the previous email.

On 24/12/14 15:24, Jeff Taylor wrote:
> OpenNic does not register TLDs with anyone.  We are a separate entity
> from other root-level zones.  We do not pay for ownership of our TLDs,
> and we are not an official body on the internet except unto ourselves. 
> When you visit opennic domains, you have to use opennic DNS servers for
> your lookups.  If we were a part of the general internet, you would not
> need to do this.
> 
> Opennic domains are free because we maintain our own existence.  All DNS
> information is created and controlled by ourselves.  This is why we can
> create our own TLDs as needed.  ANYONE can do what we do. Many companies
> have their own internal DNS configuration to allow employees to reach
> company pages.  However because of this, you have to expect that there
> will be conflicts.  We can use any name we want, but so can everyone
> else... so if someone else chooses to use the same TLD as us, conflict
> management has to happen.
> 
> Nothing nefarious has occurred here.  Nobody swooped in and stole .ing
> from us.  This is just the way DNS works.  Nobody has to agree to our
> standards, and conflicts will happen.  This isn't the first time this is
> happened.  It won't be the last.  This is just the nature of the project.
> 
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> On 12/23/2014 04:40 PM, David wrote:
>> Unless Google play off the correct cards of owner ship by waiting for
>> the expiration date to happen, Then opennic efforts are fruitless.
>>
>> Unless:
>>
>> Is this blames directly on opennic, by letting time to roll bye on the
>> renewing the registration of .ing?
>>
>>   Did .ing date expired and Google knew this matter and just waited for
>> it to mature. If there is any expiration date on the register for .ing ?
>>
>> I believe in keeping .ing, and not running from it.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/24/2014 7:07 AM, Riley Baird wrote:
>>> I doubt that the creation of .ing is intentionally trying to derail the
>>> OpenNIC project. More likely, it was just a lack of concern for it,
>>> perhaps through ignorance.
>>>
>>> The entity which filed the application for .ing is Charleston Road
>>> Registry, which is basically Google, but with a name change to meet
>>> ICANN policy.
>>>
>>> How many .ing domains are there? Do you think that Google could be
>>> convinced to "grandfather" the already registered domains?
>>>
>>> On 24/12/14 09:15, David wrote:
>>>> We should stick to opennic should be following the to the letter their
>>>> own policy that was establish a long time ago. I smell a big rotten
>>>> rotten fish in trying to derail the opennic project.     We should
>>>> support
>>>> Our leaders and supporters of opennic. ICANN it is corporate
>>>> piranha, in
>>>> other words Government greed in neutralizing the net..
>>>>
>>>> On 12/23/2014 11:45 PM, Jeff Taylor wrote:
>>>>> In case you forgot, this issue was already discussed on the list
>>>>> earlier
>>>>> this year, and the general consensus was that nobody had enough
>>>>> interest
>>>>> to put forth the effort of contacting the EFF or anyone else.  If we
>>>>> were going to fight for it, that would have been the time -- when
>>>>> ICANN
>>>>> first announced the possibility of using .ing.  At this point its too
>>>>> late, it's a done deal and any credibility we might have had towards a
>>>>> claim is gone through lack of action.
>>>>>
>>>>> But hey, if you want to hold me personally responsible for the loss of
>>>>> the zone, more power to ya.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12/20/2014 01:15 PM, Daniel Quintiliani wrote:
>>>>>> I really think someone should contact the EFF about this issue. I
>>>>>> don't personally care about my .ing domains as they're just
>>>>>> redirects,
>>>>>> but if everyone caves in like Jeff is, they're eventually gonna go
>>>>>> after Julian, and if Julian doesn't fight back, OpenNIC will be gone.
>>>>>> -- -Dan Q
>>>>>
>>>>>
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